Silver Bolts? What do you mean?

Wolfess··1 votes·480 views

Ok so the title means probably one thing to you guys: another vayne thread. yep. Ok so let's look at the thing that makes vayne a double bitch to play against: percent max health true damage.

Most of us know what this means, it means that she will ignore the crap out of all your armor like it's made of your salty tears and punch straight through it. It also means that building max hp won't really increase your survival chances by much, because her damage from silver bolts will also scale up to match your hp. The slight bits of AD that she does build are usually just to help smack around squishies whose max hp is low enough that silver bolts don't make a super big impact on and take more damage from her auto atk AD damage than they would from silver bolts.

So let's take a serious moment here and look at the awful thought I had for a moment as to what silver bolts really mean. Let's say you're a Sion, and you're so disgustingly, ungodly farmed that you broke logic and have 1 million hp due to your passive giving you free max hp on kills. Now, let's also say that you're breaking reality even more because you're the re-incarnation of Kamina (or NRVNQSR for those of you who prefer that comparison) and you have 99% damage reduction from physical and magical damage.

Now, just for argument's sake we won't take hp regen into consideration because i know some of you are going to try to BS this with a "oh look give him warmogs" comment, but we're here to look at what silver bolts really does, not try to argue with the large numbers i'm using as Sion's stats. Same applies with thornmail.

Now, let's say vayne has NO items. Silver bolt does 60 + 8% of the target's max health in true damage. Let's ignore that 60 because I don't need it. 8% max health...... against a million hp, 99% physical and magical damage reducing Sion. 8% of 1 million is 80,000, but the 80,000 is not important. what is important is that it's a percentage. procs -- % health in damage done.

  1. 8%
  2. 16%
  3. 24%
  4. 32%
  5. 40%
  6. 48%
  7. 56%
  8. 64%
  9. 72%
  10. 80%
  11. 88%
  12. 96%
  13. 104%

long story short, doesn't matter how tanky your champion is, or how much hp they have, with vayne's silver bolts, you are borderline just about GUARANTEED Dead on 13 procs of her silver bolts. I put borderline because I'm still sure some of you are going to argue warmogs and thornmail and possibly even kayle or tryn ults. Obviously while playing actual in-game the chances that a team would let vayne get this many hits off of them is extremely low as most of you are probably going to try to hard CC her like you would a Yi or tryn, but we're talking about what % max health true damage MEANS, and that's what it means, that at some point, you are GUARANTEED to die even if her AD was zero. Having a warmogs will only delay it because its health regen won't outscale her damage, and a thornmail can be countered with good lifesteal and maybe some MR or health of your own.

The true damage on silver bolts should be changed to physical or magical damage to give it at least some form of counter or prevention method to the damage.

1 Comments

Xrusa1 votes

13 procs = 39 hits 39 hits, lets say 200 AD = 7800 damage enemy has enough armor to reduce phys damage by 50%, 3900 damage the point i'm making is that the same # of auto attacks from almost any ADC is huge damage. It would be pointless to nerf the true damage when it would take literally about 20-30 seconds to perform that many attacks...if you let anyone attack you for that long, unscathed, you deserve it.

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