Give each player in a game 1 ban (10 total)

ScottieSeashells·12/30/2014, 7:01:34 AM·27 votes·2,242 views

This will fix many problems:

3 bans per team is not enough anymore.
That first pick that called mid won't only ban what beats the champion he wants to play.
No arguing over which champs are op or not and calling each other idiots (leads to more losses than you think).
Will cut down ban time (instead of 45 seconds for each ban, everyone gets the same 20 seconds to ban at the same time). -When a champ gets banned, it goes grey for everyone at the same time so multiple people can't ban the same person.
Less people will troll bc "omg you didnt ban [newest champion]"
The entire TEAM gets to contribute to the TEAM'S bans without it all being dictated by the first pick.
Overall fairness

Discuss.

27 Comments

bad manner kid1/2/2015, 12:35:01 AM5 votes

Feel like this thread got hijacked by the "If you can't beat'm, ban'm!" argument. But that isn't what the OP said, and it's an ignorant argument.

There are double the champions that 6 bans was designed for. With any given combination of 111 champions, you can have a fair and balanced (and fun!) game. In other words, if 10 champions are banned it really doesn't limit your options.

With each player choosing one champion, you are keeping the same risk of "dumb bans" that any first pick would do, and you're also giving people the opportunity to vent their aggression on a champion they do not want to play against.

Bans (especially in norm) make the game more fun. If you're in the "I only play 3 super meta champions" club, maybe it's time you started learning and enjoying the game a bit more. You don't ever have to play 1,000 games with a champion to have some awesome games with them. Most champions you can figure out in a bot game and minimal internet research (ie lolwiki for stats and interactions.)

People get sick of the same champions, I know I do. I think with 10 bans this game would be a lot more interesting and not just "pick what challenger/pros pick and call everyone that doesn't a troll." I understand why the meta is the meta, and I understand that people are pressured to ban certain champions in certain patches, but the reality is maybe that champion causes too much pressure and since so many people agree, you shouldn't focus on playing that champion to win.

A Wise Fool12/30/2014, 7:09:22 AM4 votes

all the people complaining about bans -_-.

Why not?
That doesn't happen often, usually banners listen to requests (not always)
That's their own problem. Very rarely a champion is op (and if they are, they're nerfed) usually its the player knowing how to use a champion.
Now that I agree with lol
I play a lot of draft... have only seen that once
Already covered (see complaint 2)
Agreed, that would be fair

Give me a champion and I'll give you the way to counter, there is no legit op champion right now

B7dEADtEPy12/31/2014, 12:19:58 PM1 votes

Interesting but inceasing bans will increase the required number of champs you need to rank.

Mindspeaker1/1/2015, 6:45:35 PM1 votes

!0 bans ..umm no 6 is more than enough people freak out at champs they simply don't know how to beat and call them op

Sooko1/2/2015, 12:27:51 AM1 votes

Its a good idea bud, you got a +1. I just fear for a little thing. Some people like me suffer from what I like to call Greed.

I feel that I will wait until the end of those 20 seconds, hoping someone bans Morgana and Fizz, so I can ban champions that aren't really that OP, but I have quarrels with (can't risk facing a Shaco main. Ever.)

But it might just be me. Other people might be a lot better in terms of teamwork. I mean, I ward, I cheer my team, I ping, I let everyone get nearly every kill if I can help it. But in bans I am super selfish, embarrassingly. I want to ban the champion that is more convenient to me instead of the one that is more convenient to the team (I already got pentakilled by a Morgana/Katarina combo) and I don't want to do that, but its just so hard not to follow my instincts on bans. Hopefully, you good folks of boards are better than me in this matter :/

UseWardsNotWords1/2/2015, 1:18:58 AM1 votes

Sorry for those who think we have enough, but there's simply not enough bans for high elo's. I play Fizz all the time and FP him into counters and still win. It's really stupid how much damage he can do with only a little bit ahead. Gnar is stupid strong at top, even with those minor nerfs he got. Syndra is impassably unbelievably broken. End of story, /signed syndra main Janna is ridiculous. Zed is obnoxious to play against, and it really sucks. It's like playing against a Tryndamere who follows you like a shadow. Jayce is honestly stupid and should be perma-banned, even with the change to his W, he's beyond stupid. Azir is very strong in higher ELO's. Katarina isn't played as much as she should be, but if she ever becomes more popular, I will perma-ban her. Along with Poppy. There's NO counterplay to Poppy. She ults someone on your team, and if they don't absolutely go for Poppy and blow all their CC. Say goodbye without anything you can do. Zhonya's doesn't last 8 seconds, QSS doesn't work. Kalista will be perma-ban after next tournament, just you watch. Lissandra is seeing alot of play, and with a 5 seconds Zhonya's that'll zone any ADC, I can't see why she isn't an ample ban. Rek'sai top is ridiculous, he's manageable as jungle, but as a top, he's absolutely inane. Vi doesn't really have any manageable counterplay, but I wouldn't consider her ban-worthy, just unfair to play against. Skarner is also extremely strong right now, and just wait till he's picked up and FOTM'd. Talon, Nuff said.

Wanna hear a small list of sleepers?

Cassiopeia, Annie, Anivia, Fiddlesticks, Galio, Gragas, Nidalee, Olaf, Shaco (Holy crap, he has a late game now, what????) Vel'koz, Swain. So who are the worst of the worst on this list?

Fizz, Syndra, Janna, Poppy, and Jayce. The others are absolutely overpowered, but there are also alot of sleeper OP champions that we don't get to see nearly enough because of what's stupid strong. Also, Lee Sin. Lee's been broken since release and won't be anything but till a rework.

bad manner kid1/2/2015, 3:18:12 AM1 votes

Just want to leave a comment in the middle of everyone yelling about which champion is OP:

This thread is about the necessity for extra bans and reasons why it makes the game better.

ModIts Yuu and Mi1/2/2015, 8:16:58 AM1 votes

I agree. Let everyone have a ban. If someone fears a champ and the other 4 don't, and they get screwed over by that Champ (let's say it's an absolute 100% hard counter), then they feel bad.

COWMANOFCOWS12/30/2014, 7:40:12 AM1 votes

I feel like the discussion on bans is a good thing even if consensus isnt reached. you all still call a prefered role and everyone would have to say "mid" as well as "dont ban syndra". my concern is mostly that my team would ban my prefered champion.

I vote for the current system but having this method for 3v3s an might work well..