NERF VAYNE

DunkProphet·2/15/2019, 8:14:39 AM·27 votes·5,877 views

Nerf vayne pls, me taking 500 true damage in 2 hits vs a Vayne with literally only and is bs. Dont give me any of that 'DURR JUST BURST HERR'.

I CANT FUCKING SEE HER HOW CAN I KILL HER and god forbid she gets a good support that can peel like , then it actually might as well be an auto loss unless you have and thats only because Khazix and Rengar practically have no counterplay if they are 2/3 kills ahead.

To be clear I dont mind the fact that Vayne has true damage but right now A) Its too high (B) she can proc it every 2 hits and has no problem rushing rageblade because she basically perma invis (C) Vayne used to be picked because she is a good anti tank but now she literally just blows up anything that stacks silver bolts (which is every fucking unit in the game).

35 Comments

bluefire mark 22/15/2019, 8:24:30 AM2 votes

Vayne w at MAX RANK does only 14% max hp. Meaning by maxing, if you have 2000 hp, it does 280 true damage. So you're math is off by quite a bit

The Iceberg4/2/2019, 8:01:38 PM2 votes

Vayne is easily the strongest mid game champ in the game right now + very strong late and thats how an adc is suppposed to be. she destroys naything with just guinsoos and botrk. she is also a lane bully if played top because of runes synergizing better with adc and long range champions far better than melee. wich makes her early game way stronger than its supposed to be. This shoulnt even be debatable she needs hard nerf before game goes to hell

Boogywick4/15/2019, 5:17:02 AM2 votes

I took 1900 damage in 2.25 seconds from a vayne with I.E. Shiv, Ginsuoos, And botrk. NERF THIS SHIT ALREADY JESUS CHRIST!

Trasuó5/6/2019, 5:16:43 AM2 votes

THEY NEED TO NERF THIS CHAMP ASAP

Pokemonred2002/15/2019, 10:30:30 AM2 votes

If I'm being honest, and I say this as someone who plays Vayne a lot...

I wish that when she was a troll pick and did need the buffs, they went about it in a different way.

Like giving back the attack speed they took away back in 8.2 (going from 4% to 3.3% IIRC), lowering the mana cost of Condemn, giving her better AD growth, or giving her something to help her jungle effectively (if a goal was to make her playable in multiple roles, anyway).

The buffs they did give her (cutting cooldowns on Tumble and buffing the True Damage on Silver Bolts) felt like they completely pigeonholed her into having item 3153 item 3124 being the single best possible build on her. Before, she took longer to be relevant even with Botrk Rageblade, and she had the option of other builds like item 3087 item 3031 if it really wasn't needed for her to evaporate a frontline.

The change she got to her Ult->Q having lower cooldown than non Ult->Q is something I still feel like wasn't needed, and a revert to her AS nerf would have been fine if she really needed the buffs. But it's a mechanic that apparently isn't being removed, so :/

sophisticated2/15/2019, 8:37:53 AM1 votes

I'd like to say that no Vayne in their right mind will ever rush Guinsoos, and even with guinsoos doesn't make her overpowered, she's a skill defining champ, and if you can't exploit the mistake of a high skill floor champ like that, that's not a champ being OP that's just you, not being a very good player

Dracocrash2/15/2019, 5:25:21 PM1 votes

Dont forget all of this is in addition to her incredibly broken Q damage steroid that can crit to destroy squishes.

Quáx2/15/2019, 2:01:46 PM1 votes

vaynes tumble is on a 3-second cooldown and shes stealthed for 1 second. So shes nowhere near Perma invis. Also, vayne has a ton of counterplay. She's a late game hyper carry so if you beat her early shes pretty useless unless she gets a lead at one point, she also has one of the lowest attack ranges of any ADC in the game, so abuse the fact that Caitlyn, twitch,tristana and I don't know...ANY OTHER FUCKING ADC IN THE GAME, has a longer range then her and can poke her, and if she wants to trade back she'll have to tumble, which is on cooldown while your auto attacks arent.