Jayce nerfs

Spideraxe··3 votes·5,798 views

As it stands Jayce is getting nerfs on the PBE To The Skies (Hammer Q) damage lowered to 30/70/110/150/190/230 from 40/80/120/160/200/240 Acceleration Gates (Gun E) mana cost increased to 60 from 50 Transform (Gun to Hammer) bonus AD ratio lowered to 25% from 40% Thoughts and opinions, and if Meddler happens to stumble upon this thread additional context would be nice

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RiotMeddler5 votes

Our thinking:

  • His damage is too high and will likely get a bit higher with the Lethality changes in 7.2.
  • Some of that's the result of him no longer needing to build mana to be effective. We're looking to both add a bit of cost back in and chip damage back as a result. Possible direction long term would be additional mana costs again.
RexSaur2 votes

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Our thinking:

  • His damage is too high and will likely get a bit higher with the Lethality changes in 7.2.
  • Some of that's the result of him no longer needing to build mana to be effective. We're looking to both add a bit of cost back in and chip damage back as a result. Possible direction long term would be additional mana costs again.

Revert his hammer E mana cost buff.

Or atleast make it scale up a bit like 40 into 60 or something.

Also, how about toning down his free stats (armor/mr) from his melee form at lvls 6 and 11?

Him getting free 15 armor/mr in a lvl 6 fight means he can just tank the combos from most top laners and just kill them, before he had a weakness on his ult at lvl 6 since you needed to put points into it for you to get that (and thus lose damage from not putting the points into Q), 5 armor at lvl 1 is fine, 35 armor at lvl 16 is fine but 15 and 25 at 6/11 are too much, some re-scaling there could fix it.

Spideraxe2 votes

Would you say item 3070 is something youd like to be core on him

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

He's extremely oppressive, do you really think these buffs will do enough?

Hige1 votes

uhm... so we have to deal with his crazy damage during 2 weeks x_x, that's... awful

Akumu1 votes

{quoted}

Our thinking:

  • His damage is too high and will likely get a bit higher with the Lethality changes in 7.2.
  • Some of that's the result of him no longer needing to build mana to be effective. We're looking to both add a bit of cost back in and chip damage back as a result. Possible direction long term would be additional mana costs again.

It would be awesome if you could shift him back towards how he was originally, ie a champion with strong poke. His poking ability is a far cry from what it was before when it was oppressive, his Q-E damage falls off pretty hard late game due to poor scaling. I much preferred the poke + muramana Jayce style.

RaamEsirote1 votes

Hi Meddler, are there any plans to buff manamune? The champions who use it seem to be a bit underproforming (Ez, mid Varus), not using it (Jayce, wich also coincided with a leap in win rate) or are just none existent (mid Varus again, Urgot?)

iahim981 votes

About the muramana he doesn't build anymore,would you consider a small buff, bringing back the toggle, but only for monsters(and minions), I know it has been asked before, but I don't know if it was given a proper answer or if it's simply a bad idea

VlKT0R1 votes

{quoted}

Our thinking:

  • His damage is too high and will likely get a bit higher with the Lethality changes in 7.2.
  • Some of that's the result of him no longer needing to build mana to be effective. We're looking to both add a bit of cost back in and chip damage back as a result. Possible direction long term would be additional mana costs again.

Hi, can i ask if jayce's cannon w into hammer form and hitting someone fast 3 times with hammer intended? because it's really oppressive against any melee champ.

Ralanr2 votes

#Hallelujah!

Kaioko2 votes

As the song goes -- it's easy as 1, 2, 3

1 -- Jayce is currently very strong bordeline oppressive especially in the early game

2 -- Lethality items are receiving an early game buff where instead of scaling from 40% up they will now scale starting at 60%

3 -- Jayce loves his Lethality especially how good he is with Ghostblade and Duskblade

Asayake 5150glow2 votes

Loving the reduced AD ratio on his passive (although I think it should be removed and more power/thought placed into his W/E). 10 less base damage and 10 more mana is kinda.. meh, tho/

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