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This patch ruined elise...

Tormentula··1 votes·395 views

At first I thought, "actually elise is pretty ridiculous right now.. her burst on w is insane, her speed is amazing with boots of swiftness+deadman's+runic echoes, she could use just a sliiight touch down..."

But playing elise in this patch has completely been a mistake for me. She does almost NO DAMAGE with her w... I see it was nerfed, but omg seriously, 3 matches in a row everything gets away with around 10 health.. what would be sure fire GG ganks.. became jokes and wasted time. Camp clearing as a champion I could do a full clear with without needing pots, became using all my pots at my first buff.. her W was so important to her and it's damage was nearly halved. Her human form's speed is horrible.. I thought a few points wouldn't be noticed, but it is very noticable in human form how long it takes her to walk through the jungle... I can see spider form's speed getting touched but human form? the form you should walk in for coon protection? That's just ridiculous...

Elise is an early game champion, and this is why the nerfs hit her hard because now she CAN'T get an early game..would be kills that she needs inorder to get ahead have been lost.

"Elise's winrate has spiked due to runic echoe's tho" good for her, finally, she was almost unviable this season.. I've heard people compare her to the likes of yorick and skarner, and she finally got to shine! Her win rate went up by 5%? wow.. didn't know people actually started using her testing out the new toy in runic echoes.

Seriously... I know I'm an elise main and it looks like I'm just wanting my main broken, but I cannot work with her right now... she is so useless in ganks due to no damage (didn't realize how much W did.. now I really notice it) useless mid game because her early game is slow now, and she always falls late game.

Let's not forget the bug they added, spider form now has no voices... her spider form only has the dialog of human form right now.

Seriously, fix her back to the way she was, or atleast give her "half" the nerf back. Rebuff her W but not as high as before, and revert her human form's speed.

4 Comments

Itadaki Seieki4 votes

The reason behind the W nerf was justified.

The way it worked was a Maokai Q that could crawl around walls for vision, if it hit someone it did good damage. Not only that she can walk away from a tower dive and just W as a finisher because the damage it did.

Not only that, I've looked at your op.gg games, and majority of the time you just went AP. Useless midgame? Her cocoon is probably one of the best lockdowns a team could ask for. Her abiilty to stick onto someone if she goes tanky is amazing. Get Rylai's after Runic and just go pure tank? Boom you can keep someone locked down for a while.

But playing elise in this patch has completely been a mistake for me. She does almost NO DAMAGE with her w... I see it was nerfed, but omg seriously, 3 matches in a row everything gets away with around 10 health..

Can you tell me where the three games were?

https://gyazo.com/fba91196734616cd081b3687a0e50f8e

I see only one, where you lost.

If you were an Elise main, like everyone else who plays FOTM, you would really stick to her and learn how to bypass her nerfs, as anyone who mains someone you SHOULD be able to flexibly pick up where it hurts and move on.

Melicious Metal has had Morde nerfed, buffed, reworked and nerfed again, do you see him complaining? No. He picks it up and learns how to get around it.

As someone who's a Bard main, and yes I do main Bard, I expect nerfs in the future. His early game damage is horrid. When they nerf his damage will I come to the boards saying he's broken? No. I'll just come around and ask people what builds they find work on the nerfed Bard patch.

Also; the servers have only been up for three hours and you have only played one game.. How can you justifiably say the nerf destroyed her?

Tormentula1 votes

I'll continue to try her, but I still feel like the nerf was too much

The w nerf was justified, but that majorly nerfed? I mean that damage was reduced maybe to 75% the adverage. If she recieve just that and not movement speed, I'd say yea ok fair enough.. but I still feel like what was done to her was a bit over kill.

As far as sticking goes with her coons, I'll play more games before I touch on that. I found it tricky but looking at team matchup I don't think sticking was the plan to begin with.

What bothers me is just how some high(er) burst champions are just as rampant and ignored, but the moment elise gets a good winrate things get bad for her.

Tormentula1 votes

Played a few more matches and she's still stong, I tried a few things different (started Q) and played a bit more cautiously.

I guess it's no big deal if you use her right, just judging when exactly a kill is a kill is key... 1v1ing other junglers is a no no however now.

WoonStruck1 votes

The nerfs barely touch her, really.

75% of the average? Sorry, no.

That minor reduction is made up for by the new AP jungle item.

She's not even really nerfed outside of 5 MS, which is negligible, relative to the prior patches. Where she was still strong.

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