How to stop Nasus?

Ricky Spanish DC··1 votes·4,143 views

Everytime I play a game with a Nasus, especially if I am playing as a squishy champ, it feels like Nasus is just a ticking time bomb ready to one-shot me or my teammates. I try to, and my teammates try to zone him out of stacks, or just push him out of lane, but even if he only gets 200 stacks, he becomes an unstoppable beast- we try to end the game asap, but he just becomes an unkillable, mega damage machine. He is impossible to kite because of his 5 second, attack speed lowering slow, which isnt even avoidable, plus the slow even goes up to 95 percent. His damage is huge,even though he builds full tank. I know he is not as strong early game, but how can I or anyone else stop him from getting strong?

19 Comments

Twiggles2 votes

How to stop Nasus from getting strong:

Option 1: Destroy the enemy Nexus before 25 minutes.

Option 2: Ban Nasus.

That's pretty much it, really. Farming simulator too stronk.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I used to have a long-ass post on this topic. While it hasn't been updated in a while, I'll post it anyways. Hopefully, the general information will help.

First, the general tips:

  • Try to avoid shoving Nasus under his turret. That makes him very hard to poke and/or kill as most melee champions, leaves you overextended (and wither makes it very easy for his jungler to gank), and limits your jungler's options.

  • Nasus will typically stack resistances early. In some cases, rushing early penetration (Void Staff, Last Whisper, or Black Cleaver) can help keep your damage relevant against him.

  • Nasus deals primarily physical damage and he doesn't usually itemize for armor penetration. If you believe you will have to split-push against him for a significant portion of the game, you want to purchase some armor. item 3047 and item 3075 are especially useful when dueling him since they will reduce and reflect damage from his Q respectively.

Shoving to tower is the absolute last thing you want to do against Nasus. It lets him safely free-farm and sustain, limits your trading opportunities, prevents your jungler from ganking him (in most cases), and leaves you vulnerable to ganks (and Wither is great for chasing people down a lane). Diving Nasus can be risky as well since:

  • Wither slows you and lets him escape
  • Spirit Fire reduces your armor, amplifying the damage dealt by the tower
  • He can get a large burst of health from his lifesteal and his ultimate

Now for your questions.

How do I deny farm?

In my experience, I find that you have to freeze the minion wave and zone Nasus from farm. If at all possible, try and get the minion wave pushing towards your tower, freeze it, and call your jungler up to gank Nasus while he is overextended.

A good Nasus player may know how to handle this situation and break the freeze, but if you can get an advantage against him you can often bully him early. Just make sure he spends as little time under his tower as possible, since they is where he can freely farm and sustain.

Do I roam or stay top?

This greatly depends on the situation. Many counterpicks against Nasus will want to stay in lane with him and deny/bully him for every CS he tries to get. This works quite well when you can do so for an extended period of time, but this isn't always possible (especially when your team is losing). If your champion isn't good for handling Nasus or your team is having issues, you may have to roam to try and snowball other lanes. This can help you end the game early, snowball your team to victory, or get you allies fed enough to help against Nasus. This can be really risky though, since it allows Nasus to freefarm and splitpush.

What champions do I pick into Nasus?

Generally, I find you want some mixture of the following quantities in a champion laning against Nasus:

  • Durability (to survive retaliation and ganks)
  • Sustain (to stay health and outsustain him)
  • Spammable abilities (to punish Nasus whenever he tries to CS)
  • They have some method of sticking to Nasus or don't rely on attack speed (since Wither can cripple many opponents)
  • Anti-tank abilities (armor reduction, percent health, etc)

In addition, it helps if your champion has a strong mid or late game so that they don't fall off in comparison to Nasus. From playing as and against them, I find that the following champions can (or could) do relatively well in lane:

Akali Darius DrMundo Gnar Hecarim Kennen Mordekaiser Olaf Rumble Shyvana Swain Trundle XinZhao Yorick Vladimir

However, you don't always have to counter Nasus solely in lane. There are many champions in other roles who work very well against him.

**Mid laners: **Malzahar Cassiopeia Azir Heimerdinger Karthus Orianna Viktor Ziggs Kayle Velkoz These champions typically offer high sustained damage and methods of kiting Nasus when he tries to approach their team.

ADCs: Ashe Corki Draven Jinx Sivir Varus Vayne KogMaw Kalista These ADCs primarily have CC (knockbacks, slows, snares) for kiting Nasus and deal either mixed damage or highly amplified physical damage. Several of them have percent health damage or anti-tank abilities to help kill tanks like Nasus quickly.

Due to the crippling effects of Wither, your ADC should typically have either item 3140 or summoner 1. This can let them remove Wither immediately and kill Nasus before he can reapply it.

Junglers: MasterYi Nunu Gragas Sejuani Elise LeeSin JarvanIV Nautilus RekSai Kindred Junglers can be tricky since you typically want someone who is strong and capable of kiting him late game, but you also want someone with strong early pressure to gank Nasus and set him behind.

Nunu can set the enemy jungler behind, relieving pressure from the top lane so they can keep bullying Nasus. During teamfights, he can buff your ADC to increase their damage, chain-slow Nasus to prevent him from reaching anybody, and is too tanky for Nasus to kill.

Master Yi is a special case since he isn't that great against Nasus in teamfights but he can absolutely murder him when they splitpush against one another. Master Yi can deal a lot of mixed damage (Devourer, Blade of the Ruined King, Wuju Style), build somewhat tanky against Nasus (Ninja Tabi, Thornmail), can use Meditate to reduce Q damage, and ignores Wither. He deals far too much damage for Nasus to heal through and deals it too quickly for Nasus to kill him.

Supports: Pretty much the entire support pool can help counter Nasus due to the CC they provide and how good they are at kiting/peeling immobile squishy champions from their carries.

What summoners do I take?

You typically want to take Flash and Teleport. While Ignite gives you some extra kill pressure, you may still lose your level advantage if you have to walk back to lane. In addition, if you don't have teleport than Nasus can freely splitpush and still join fights so you will either lose towers 1v0 or lose teamfights 4v5.

What do I build?

That greatly depends on the champion you are playing. However, I would recommend building your percent-penetration items relatively early in the lane since Nasus will be stacking resistances against you. Afterwards, you may want to get some armor (such as Ninja Tabi, Chain Vest, Seeker's Armguard, or Warden's Mail) or continue building damage.

If you want an example, I would typically build Ionian Boots, Hextech Revolver, and Void Staff as Vladimir when laning against Nasus (or most tanks) so that I could quickly poke him out of lane and prevent him from sustaining through my damage. As Darius, I would recommend rushing Black Cleaver into Randuin's Omen to render his armor ineffective and to become durable enough to ignore his damage long enough to kill him.

That's most of the advice that I can give based on my experienced playing against and as Nasus. Hope it helps.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Kill him lvl 1 or 2. Then ask the jungler for a gank. Lvl 6-9 group with the team and take towers. Finish the game before he backdoors. He is bad in teamfights.

Celestial Lion121 votes

hes still really tanky and has an attack speed slow for the enemy ad dropping there damage by a ton

Sneakyy XD1 votes

If Wither is stopping you from kiting Nasus, you and/or your team is heavily fucking up.

Wither averages to be less than a 60% slow for 5 seconds and has an 11 second CD. Champions get stuns that ultimately slow for more than that and prevent you from doing anything on shorter CDs that also deal damage. What are you doing against them that you aren't doing against Nasus?

Celestial Lion121 votes

but most nasus builds involve at least 30 percent cdr if not 40 percent between item 3025 item 3065 and item 3110 which are all good items in nasus build path its actual cooldown is 6.6-7.3 leaving 1.6-2.3 seconds where you are not slowed and when your not slowed by his whither you will be slowed by his iceborn.

Dyonas1 votes

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If Wither is stopping you from kiting Nasus, you and/or your team is heavily fucking up.

Wither averages to be less than a 60% slow for 5 seconds and has an 11 second CD. Champions get stuns that ultimately slow for more than that and prevent you from doing anything on shorter CDs that also deal damage. What are you doing against them that you aren't doing against Nasus?

11 seconds? 45% CDR drops it to practically 4 seconds so it's available when it wears off again. I hate when I see a Nasus in a game because it is a ticking time bomb. Unless you literally have your top laner do nothing but harass him constantly and keep on him the entire game he will become the Q smashing machine I hate. Even then it doesn't take a lot to farm under tower for him. Saying "finish the game fast" is not really a counter. It's a solution which relies on a lot of factors that are outside your control.

For actual lane counters the best that I've found personally is Pantheon. Sure Nasus can still wither and Q but with Pantheon's passive, stun and ability to harass from range it makes it difficult for Nasus to do anything. It isn't going to work at all skill levels and I admit to being pretty low on the chain.

CHEESYLEEKS1 votes

Build a zzrot.... nasus will push very slowly due to minions giving stacks, nasus will be more inclined stay in lane and stack then he already was before, then keep tp handy and roam,gank,steal enemies jungle, take other lanes towers etc just generally wreak havoc.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I don't see how letting Nasus become a monster faster helps him won against nasus

CHEESYLEEKS1 votes

Illaoi with a zzrot, never failed me yet

Immortal spax1 votes

I dont think its a good idea

http://youtu.be/Hr9POzPF5_4

El Heat1 votes

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Build a zzrot.... nasus will push very slowly due to minions giving stacks, nasus will be more inclined stay in lane and stack then he already was before, then keep tp handy and roam,gank,steal enemies jungle, take other lanes towers etc just generally wreak havoc.

are u seruous? ZZROT? FREE INFINITE STACKS? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Kledy McKledFace1 votes

zzrot or pick gangplank. He cant do anything to GP

Immortal spax1 votes

Are you a Nasus main?

http://youtu.be/Hr9POzPF5_4

And if i dont remember wrong, even barrels counts as a stacks

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Nope, barrels do not give stacks.

Ðelofasht1 votes

Simplest answer I've found is to run someone who can reliably do 30% of his max health in damage in 2.5s (almost anyone can, it's his lifesteal that makes him feel hard to kill) and grab Stormraider's. Slap him in the face with your abilities, get buff walk away and /lol at his slow. Also, boots of Swiftness primarily negate his slow as well if you'd prefer to go with some big damage keystone instead.

Lastly, Nasus tends to avoid his team and just split all day, use that to your advantage to really get the rest of the map hard while you have a portal or two in the lane he's pushing, he's hard pressed to keep all the voidlings from clearing his waves, he'll have to go find the portals first (I just stick 'em under the tower and let it keep the waves back).

Mechanized Hulk1 votes

Leona Build her like a Tank/Mage.

Yikes A Pyke1 votes

I've been playing a few games recently as Nasus, and stopping Nasus is... really hard. I mean, ending the game early or banning him out as Twiggles said SHOULDN'T be a solution to defeating a certain champion, but in Nasus' case it is. The big issue with Nasus is the general cheapness of buying items that can negate a person's damage. I just recently played a game against a Vladimir that had him harassing me for the first few levels, and resulted in me having to back quite a few times early. It denied me from a bunch of stacks, but eventually I was able to get a Specter's Cowl and a Kindlegem. My Lee ganked, resulting in a kill for me, and free stacks.

I never got ganked, got my Visage, and then Iceborn, Zz'Rot, and I stomped. I forced at least 3 to come stop me successfully. I was a time bomb that understood he couldn't win lane alone. The only thing I can think of that would counter Nasus is someone who's a huge bully, such as Darius or Riven, who can still beat him despite some armor stacking. Taking the advantage of the 4v5s can also help too, because if he's the only one who did well, his team will get stomped while he selfishly split-pushes and stacks, resulting in a lost game.

CR4ZYRONDH4VI1 votes

To be completely honest, you can't late game. he will never stop scaling and there is nothing you can do about it if the game goes too long. You need to take a strong early game team and group ASAP to overwhelm the enemy since Nasus will prob stay top to stack more. Again. If you wait too long, you'll be donzo.

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