Quinn and Valor

Crusade·Dec 11, 2014·1 votes·965 views

Valor is the only pet to actually replace the champion on battlefield instead of fighting alongside them. Valor is also not a transformation like Nidalee, Jayce, Elise etc

So why do they share the same inventory? when quinn presses R does she puts the item on valor in a split second?

So why not make it they are like 2 champions u control but you can only control one at a time by pressing R So they have seperate builds which will help quinn be a top tier adc for once in her life, and she will be able to be played almost anywhere cause of what she will be able to build with Valor,

And incase you were wondering, im implying that they should have 2x the gold earnt + starting gold, BUT can only spend 1/2 of each, and shows seperate gold ammounts.

Also ult at level 1 thnx.

10 Comments

BoulderoxDec 12, 20144 votes

asking the question about a bird holding a champs items with a nami wearing boots bot lane.....

Leblancs BoobDec 12, 20142 votes

Im not sure being top tier is the goal here how about let's just start with her just being viable as an ADC

ModWulf HelhammerDec 12, 20141 votes

She works absolutely fine as an ADC, really good in fact. You just have to be able to play her right (also don't hope to do very well against a Cait unless the Cait is trash....she completely wrecks you because of the range difference.)

KonidiasDec 12, 20141 votes

{quoted} She works absolutely fine as an ADC, really good in fact. You just have to be able to play her right (also don't hope to do very well against a Cait unless the Cait is trash....she completely wrecks you because of the range difference.)

She works fine as an ADC... as long as you can somehow manage to avoid minion waves because they are the bane of Quinn's existence. All of her trade potential is in her blind... which gets blocked by minions... so any ADC that can land damage to you through minions is going to wreck you.

By the time you walk around a big wave of minions and throw your blind, you've been AA'd no less than 3 times already. Then you blind the enemy, land maybe 2 AAs, and then proceed to watch as the enemy lands 2 back at you while you attempt to retreat from the trade. Yay... you have successfully traded 2-3 AAs for 5-6 AAs... Oh, and here's an enemy skillshot through the minion wave as a goodbye present!

What's that? Vault? Sure, lets get in that minion wave and Vault past them! And then... land directly back in the minion wave where you still can't throw your Q at the enemy without walking out of the minions first and taking free harass. :S

I mean, unless your enemy ADC is so stupid that they just stand out away from their minions so you can land free Qs, you're not winning that lane.

Leblancs BoobDec 13, 20141 votes

I'd have to disagree with Quinn as an ADC. She works well as a top laner because of her blind and range, as well as her burst. As an ADC she is outclassed by marksmen that simply outrange and then also gets outscaled because Quinn is useless when it comes to lategame. Her range is very low and she doesnt have any direct mobility out of switching to Valor. This isn't even to mention that her ult and a huge part of her burst forces a squishy ADC into melee range

KonidiasDec 12, 20141 votes

Interesting, but too confusing to keep track of. Also if you're going to this extreme, they would need their own health and mana pools as well. Meaning you would literally be playing 2 champs. That you could switch at will. Would be extremely broken.

All Quinn/Valor needs is possibly separate skill cooldowns or resets of some sort.

CrusadeDec 12, 20141 votes

Oh i should of put it down, they would be sharing their Cool downs, that is the only linked thing about them i guess.

WARLAG0Dec 12, 20141 votes

I agree they should have separate cds, also ( not my idea but I can't remember where I read it) it would be nice if Quinn's Q came out in a Soraka Q style instead of coming out of her insides, and Valors E could be used as a skillshot, speeding up forward for a short distance and stopping when you hit an enemy, also makes it useful as it would allow you to go overwalls without needing to use W and hopefully theres an enemy on the other side you can dash to, but idk if that would seem to broken...I dont think so I mean nidalee can jump a wall every 2 seconds or something like that.

edit: Also how come Teemos blind duration scales with each rank in his Q for a maximum of 2.5 secs, and Quinns blind duration is always 1.5, seems nonsense to me Quinn has it as a skillshot and is less rewarding than point-click Teemo blind, sure yours has A BIT of AoE if you actually land it and lets face it, if you manage to blind 2 people chances are 1 of them isn't even AA reliant.

BeatzBoyFTWDec 12, 20141 votes

Nunu - Midget doing only 10% of the job.

KonidiasDec 12, 20141 votes

I agree that right now her blind doesn't last long enough to even be useful in some trades. Her range is too low... if you try to trade with longer ranged champs. They can land an auto before your blind lands, then you land maybe 2 autos before the blind wears off, and then the enemy can land several autos before you can get out of their attack range.

It definitely needs to scale... or she needs more range... or something.