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Why do I keep finding myself in games that are unwinnable?

Yoshi 42o··3 votes·4,262 views
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I have so many games where the enemy team seems to do everything right in every lane, yet my team does everything wrong in every lane... almost like the team is stacked against me. Try as I might to do the best I can, its impossible to comeback from these games. Take an example from yesterday's game. Bot lane both died, I came through and got a double kill with J4 jungle, again, I ganked while both were there... the two bottom literally suicided yet I secured another double kill. I went top, and secured a kill... I looked at the score and I am 5-0 while the score of the game is 5-10... Later, 20 minutes into the game, I was 5-1-4, the score of the game was 10-30... they were up by 20 kills and I had participated in 9 of the kills and only 1 of the 30 deaths. I literally single handedly put us back into the game, by the end, we all had full build and lost the game due to the fact that our adc literally did less damage than the support. I ended with most damage, and yet I built tank. How does this happen so consistently? I'd say over 50% of my games. Now you may think "hes just complaining etc" but even when I win... the team seems stacked against the opponent, like its not even a fair match. Has anyone else had these same problems? It sucks to be the "star" player of the team every game... I'm not saying I'm an amazing player... I work to improve every time I play rather than paying complete attention to my rank... but it is VERY frustrating to be on the losing side of these one-sided games. How does this matchmaking make sense? The player base for StarCraft is lower than League of Legends, and yet the matchmaking is much more efficient there. I really enjoy playing League... but how can you expect players to be non-toxic when they become so frustrated over losing so many games when they are literally putting every effort into becoming better? How can it consistently be so one-sided? I'd much rather play ranked 5s, but its so hard to find a good solid consistent 5 players to play with.

That being said, I have a lot of work to do as an individual player with game mechanics/decision making... but I often find myself the star of these one-sided matches... and regardless of how well I do... you can't win a game when you are the only one "fed" and yet every other lane loses, and continues to try to kill their opponent when its past the stage of being able to turn your lane around. It's flat out frustrating.

Maybe the example I posted wasn't a good indication of what I'm trying to say http://imgur.com/4rF3h1C http://imgur.com/O3iRHAU http://imgur.com/dW4FbpI http://imgur.com/I1dpU1S

These are games just off of my 10 game match history... How 1 sided? wtf? Solo queue literally feels like I'm rolling the dice each and every game... Regardless of how I play as an individual... Maybe someone in diamond can carry their way through silver gold and platinum with ease... but what if I am evenly matched against a jungler, or evenly matched against my laning opponent, and yet every other lane loses because they are outmatched? I can't win that game on my own.

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ValyrianBlade3 votes

I know that feeling. Most losses feel like I could have played perfectly and still lost because everyone did so bad (although definitely some would be wins if I played better). Most wins I do amazing and feel like I'm going to carry so hard only to realize everyone else on my team is just as fed (or for me, more often than not 1-2 players have like 10/4/5 while I'm like 8/0/6, I.e. They're more fed but I've died a lot less).

I find it kind of saddening because it feels like my skills have no impact. All my wins and losses are predetermined whether I play well or not. I want to win close Games where my plays actually made a difference. I even want to lose Games where I can think "had I done this a bit better maybe we'd have won." I find Games like this seem to come up maybe 30% of the time, while 70% I have no impact on (and frankly I probably have had better luck here than most).

Hawleo2 votes

start giving kills

Yoshi 42o2 votes

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start giving kills

I try to as much as possible, sometimes I just have to secure it because they have flash up, or similar, theres many times where I will gank and they will have a couple hits left.. I will slow them with jungler smite, and walk away letting my laner take the kill.. I've also had it where they are just so low from engaging, that I have to kill the lane opponent before.... or after, the lane dies... other times it's as if the kills were meaningless for the laner... and our game was a pre-determined loss before it began.

Also, "start giving kills" doesn't apply to games where it is obviously 1 sided in MY favor... It's why I gave both examples. My gameplay seems irrelevant with the matter being discussed.

Pooping money2 votes

Coming to think of it: Every sport is possible to win you just have to be good. But in league it's different. You don't need much skill to win but what you really need is luck. Now. Luck has been the number 1 major factor in the game for winning. I haven't read any statistics about people carrying to win or anything to deny the luck factor BUT even without these statistics I can tell for a FACT that luck is what that's required in this game. You can't obtain luck, you can't gain it, you can't lose it, it's just there... and it's messing with us.

Basically in other sports you have a chance to win and in league you don't. Does it suck? Yes sucks greatly, and it's only because that even when you try your best you still won't win... it's like a gag really. Take One Punch Man for example: The character "Mumen rider" is what we are and the enemies in the series are our enemies. Mumen rider has no chance in every fight even if he tries his best... Unwinnable fights.

I consider this a hate comment towards the game itself because if a game denies you will factor to win every game. Instead they enforce luck factor. Sad fact: higher elo players say that every champ is balanced. Ok. If every champ is balanced shouldent my odds of winning is 50%? Incorrect since matchmaking is with other human beings that lack knowledge with or against you.

ParinoidPanda1 votes

You have a hypothesis. I suppose the answer is to do a match history of, say, 20 ranked game history for the people in the games you feel are one-sided, and run a deviation on their Fantacy LCS scores for those games. then compare that deviation with the score of the game they played with you.

The game is fair if: the other team will have a deviation of greater than 1, and your team will have a deviation of greater than 1 also.

Hypothesis confirmed if: that the other team has a normal deviation of near zero or 1+/-, but your team also has a deviation of near zero 1+/-, meaning, you got grouped with people who usually suck against people who usually do really well.

edit: I'll run some numbers for you on your last 10 games. Stand by.

ParinoidPanda1 votes

Here we go:

Game one: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1709890106/50083535?tab=overview http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Nemesis+ix

Looks pretty normal. Honestly, the talent was pretty even. Both sides had 3 players that were prone to losing. Your adc doesn't even play adc, while the rest of you were in your comfort zone. The other team's top was clearly a poor decision maker, and a bit of a troll. Their jungler was about as good as you and your jungler. Their mid didn't even play mid, but seems to be a draven main, and has excellent APM abilities. Their adc was so-so as well.

I can't stay. So, i'll leave you with this, after looking at all of these guys' match histories, I can say, that letting people get into a role they are familiar with is good, but some people don't consistently make the best decisions in lane. They aren't at the point of being concistent, and can be influenced to play a certain way. That's what I've gleaned from this exercize. I encourage you to do the same.

UberAffe1 votes

Was that from a straight number crunch or did you use something for it?

CoolKnightST1 votes

The first example is obvious: Sona was in the game ^^

AloneInTheCrowd1 votes

I think sometimes in ranked games Riot places bots intentionally to ruin your elo . JK , it's the human factor , do you think Diamond 1 players don't do mistakes ? Ofc they do , everyone does . So you got into some games that people do even more mistakes = you lose these games . Use such games ( lost from the begining or going real bad ) to master your cs or timers or .. warding . You won't win them anyways so might as well practice in them crazy dives 1v3's etc .

Yoshi 42o2 votes

People like u have no idea what you are talking about... your "theory" should work both ways... meaning if you have pretty bad luck you could lost 3-4 matches in a row... 13 matches lost in a row by 2 different players is MATCHMAKING anyone who doesnt see it is a complete idiot coming on here trying to sound smart. ------ The point is, that matchmaking is broken.

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