even when top and mid are carrying hard, bot lane still continues feed and tilt into mid-late game

grug·Dec 29, 2016·39 votes·2,738 views

seems like nowadays, its the only lane that matters.

29 Comments

coreychichiDec 30, 20165 votes

90% (made up statistic but I bet it's damn close) of the times my lane is feeding comes from whatever mid is crushing coming bot, or the other endless amounts of interference we receive down here. So if you're mid or top and think you're carrying you should probably join the fiesta bot lane, because if you don't the other team sure as hell will. There is only so much we can do against 4 people.

I had a 12-0 aurelion sol that just carried his team fine. After he manhandled Xerath mid he came bot for his triple kill in the middle of a gank. I'm sorry but I see enemy mids making way too much of an impact bot lane to believe your original point. They are carrying, they're just doing it by steamrolling bot.

NineTailedMysticDec 30, 20161 votes

I think he means if I'm mid trying to carry 12/0, but their jg/top/mid camps the shit out of my bot, it's extremely hard to carry that.

grugDec 29, 20164 votes

I just don't understand why the effects last the whole game, do all adc players have some ego complex whereas they start playing like shit if they have a shitty KDA?

RocketRelmDec 30, 20162 votes

~~I just don't understand why the effects last the whole game,~~ do all adc players have some ego complex ~~whereas they start playing like shit if they have a shitty KDA~~?

Yes. They do.

TreyhovaDec 30, 20163 votes

I mean, I don't mind being carried as a ADC, and I don't try to feed. Its just that I am really easy to kill, have an extremely expensive build, need more than 1 item to do damage and have very few defensive items that I can buy that won't turn my build into garbage. The class is literally balanced around having 1-2 babysitters to survive. And I agree, I fucking hate that the lane matters so much. I hate the "We need to crush bot to win meta". But until the lane doesn't offer so much to gank (2 champions that are pretty easy to kill early, dragon, easiest tower to kill, and shuts down a carry) we are going to stay in this meta.

ÄrtoriasDec 30, 20164 votes

"gangbang botlane" - Aphromoo

Ariel the CruelDec 30, 20163 votes

ADC has always been the most important role. That's nothing new. The 700 gold first tower crap is causing a lot of insanity though.

KING ATTILADec 29, 20162 votes

I made a post saying the same thing and I get downvoted. Boards plz.

grugDec 29, 20163 votes

i'll be downvoted soon just wait

the storm's coming

the point still stands that fucking up 10mins in bot lane should not affect the outcome of the entire game but it does somehow, the psychological consequences of playing bot lane extend to the realms of surrealism.

LemurKickDec 30, 20162 votes

What are you talking about? Any QQ about bot lane gets upvoted to shit

Papa AndreiDec 30, 20163 votes

Hey look even your comment is downvoted. Feels bad man

AMYS GRAVEDec 30, 20161 votes

He probably has a boards stalker. Some people are so petty that when they lose an argument they follow them for a few days/weeks and downvote anything they post with their main account and all their smurfs. I've had it from time to time, and there are some people on these boards who have them perpetually. Usually the people who piss off GD.

Papa AndreiDec 30, 20161 votes

Ye i had one for awhile. when anyone discussion immediatlely gets -10 in an hour its pretty obvious

AMYS GRAVEDec 31, 20161 votes

Its more obvious when its every post across every discussion you post in, especially when i post an innocuous gif in M&G. When the title of the post includes the word gif and your relevant gif is -3 instantly it makes me laugh.

KING ATTILADec 31, 20161 votes

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Hey look even your comment is downvoted. Feels bad man

Yuuup. Fuck em.

KorilloDec 29, 20161 votes

Well typically 3 people impact that lane now. ADC, Support & Jungle, so ya it's a pretty important lane.

VekknaDec 29, 20164 votes

Jungle basically decides it one way or the other. ADC and Supp are just duo supports for whichever jungle pick is more busted and can farm to level 8 raid boss status the fastest.

SmileInABoxDec 30, 20161 votes

This is why I switched to being a bot lane main. I trust myself not to feed, and at least I can learn and be responsible if I do.

SweedishGunnerDec 30, 20161 votes

It's like ADC players can't stop the feed though. I'd rather them be 0/0 and down 50 cs than be 0/7 and have the same cs, I can always roam down from mid and help out as long as the enemy ADC ain't fed.

SmileInABoxDec 30, 20162 votes

To be fair, it is very snowbally down there. Your support takes one bad trade and suddenly you're getting pushed in and maybe dived. After that first dive it just goes downhill without any help. Some definitely don't know how to play safe though.

Ariel the CruelDec 30, 20166 votes

It's pretty much standard that one ADC gets fed and the other doesn't exist for half the game. It's a natural side-effect of the current meta. Alternating 4-man and 5-man rape-fests every 2 minutes, ~700 gold lead with first tower + drag if up, and paper mache towers shooting wet noodles for protection. Come mid game, a trailing ADC can cost your a teamfight and a trailing support (more so than normal) isn't going to have the same presence (partly because Locket scales with level). Once bot lane gets forced on their back foot, it also becomes harder to ward; making those rape-fests more likely to succeed.

It's pretty brutal down here right now. Playing safe only goes so far. Morello help us of the enemy team has a half-competent assassin.

CalabokDec 30, 20161 votes

so, when is this new news?

never

SweedishGunnerDec 30, 20161 votes

Why can't I upvote this more than once?

TuplamelaDec 30, 20161 votes

You realize that every time your bot feeds their asses off, the enemy top / mid are happy to have a decent bot? If one bot is losing the game, then the other bot is winning the game.

Asayake 5150glowDec 30, 20161 votes

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You realize that every time your bot feeds their asses off, the enemy top / mid are happy to have a decent bot? If one bot is losing the game, then the other bot is winning the game.

I'd rather have both ADC's be doing shit.

Let me oneshot the enemy ADC while taking the glory in all the teamfights.

The worst is when both supps feed, and you see your ADC doing good, but then the enemy ADC comes top for some reason and kills you.

Or, yunno, you flash onto them as FIora.

DIRUDec 30, 20161 votes

all lanes are equally important, except bot is 2x important because there's 2 people.

MFTORANK1Dec 30, 20161 votes

I play ADC sometimes and the thing is, the impact that junglers have on this lane is over the top. It's not rare to get ganked 5-6 times pre -20 minutes , sometimes you'll even get dove 4v2 or 5v2.

Most adc at my elo will just coin flip the lane meaning that is instead of farming 70-80 CS and wait until they have reliable damage they will trade constantly early and pick dumb fights and die over and over and get snowballed on. There's also alot of chances that the support was auto-filled and that he's complete garbage and will start feeding. It's a real clown fiesta down in bot.

SilmarilDec 30, 20161 votes

It's kind of hard to 'play safe' when 4 and 5v2 tower dives are so common that the only way to play safe enough to not die is to stand behind the inner turret.

Of course, there are bad players who die a lot without other lanes' intervention, but it's not a bot-lane specific thing. I see 0/10 top lanes all the time.