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Please look at Diana

Nergle·7/18/2018, 3:33:11 PM·32 votes·14,091 views

I know riot probably won’t pay attention to this because Diana isn’t a popular champ, and quite frankly they don’t seem to care about her, I wanted to make this post anyways because she has everything going against her right now. She has been indirectly nerfed consistently, and can’t compete with any of the new champs.

First of all, scarra and other streamers/pro players have mentioned that Diana’s kit is extremely linear and predictable, already making her very vulnerable and outplayable. Besides that, ap itemization on her has become confusing and difficult as many items tend to favour ranged champions, or aren’t worth building on her. While she can dish out a lot of damage it is very easy to counter with mr, denying her the burst she is known for. Building roa nashors for tank/sustain just isn’t worth it anymore because it takes her to long to reach her power spikes, and by the time she does the game is already over. Arcsecond just released a video on why he has stopped playing Diana which covers this in more detail.

In terms of laning, pretty much any other pick is better. She is ganked easily, she can be countered easily by building mr, and she has no place split pushing because top laners are now often ad bruisers that out-trade and out-push her in side lanes.

To top things off, the only viable summoner spell (teleport) just got nerfed to the ground. I mean you can take ignite but it doesn’t offer nearly as much as teleport did, plus Diana’s kill potentional (for reasons mentioned earlier) is slim, so ignite is pretty useless. Oh, and her q&e have been bugged for 2 months now.

I love Diana, by far my favourite champ to play and when played right she can be very good in this meta, but even if you play the game perfectly it doesn’t guarantee you’ll win. It is hard to see such a great champion waste away.

I’m praying that she will receive some quality of life buffs to her kit. I don’t care if they buff her damage, I would rather see fundamental changes to her kit that make it so she has a reason to be picked. Such a great champ with an abundance of potentional. There are tons of suggestions out there from Diana mains!!!

Please riot, help an aspect of the moon out!!! Give this girl a break!

51 Comments

Frosted Tips7/18/2018, 3:47:34 PM9 votes

I personally think they need to do a class update. The diver class. Diana would be apart of it and mostly Physical damage champions besides her like Wukong and such. Plus new items for AP fighters and AD fighters. Diana would get small ability changes to her W and E imo.

KoKoboto7/18/2018, 6:49:56 PM7 votes

Diana definitely needs a bit of a rework. When she's ahead she's as cancerous as Akali with a point click combo. She doesn't NEED to land Q first to one shot with a double R. She can just R->W->Q and that'll get the job done.

She by no means needs buffs. What she does need is a small rework.

Daddy Ants7/18/2018, 5:11:21 PM4 votes

She needs a rework.

DO NOT LET CERTAINLYT TOUCH HER PLEASE.

CppL7/18/2018, 4:09:16 PM4 votes

They need to fix her Q and W bugs.Thats shit is fucking annoying...And yea she could use some buffs but not dmg ,her burst is already stupid.

Dracocrash7/18/2018, 4:57:19 PM3 votes

anyone except certainlyT PLEASE.

Targon7/18/2018, 11:28:54 PM3 votes

Diana used to have a very good niche. She was kind of like an anti-assassin, and was able to keep champions like Akali Katarina Zed Fizz Leblanc in line. Now that we're in an assassin meta, you'd think she'd shine, but that's not the case. She has lost her niche. Damage is so high that setting assassins behind doesn't matter as much anymore. Diana has lost that reliability in some respect. Why pick Diana when her early game is weak; she has no escape; and her durability means barely anything? The only thing Diana has going for her is she can reliable make a 5v5 a 4v4. Riot should really look into things they can change with her kit.

Alice Quinn7/18/2018, 8:50:14 PM2 votes

Not to mention her bugged Q for over 3 months and E for half a year. They don't care about her.

Lord Malpercio7/18/2018, 3:50:40 PM2 votes

You don't want Riot to look at Diana. They will completely nerf her, as they have stated her design was a mistake. Shhh. Don't bring attention to her, or you'll wind up like Ivern

Asobi Spirit7/18/2018, 4:30:23 PM2 votes

But isn't linear and predictable what makes her strong? You dont need to knowul multiple engage patterns when all you need is to Hit Q and then R. If your damage is high, the enemy will die.

Diana hole7/18/2018, 4:30:42 PM2 votes

She doesn't really need any buffs. Diana is playable in almost any tiers, you just need to put more effort into making her work. Keep playing diana if you enjoy playing her, but if ur playing her for strengths, then pick a different champ

Nøctμrne7/18/2018, 5:53:00 PM2 votes

Diana needs a nerf imo. I have played too many games where a Diana I forced into practically feeding scores starts to one shot my teamates.

The volatility of her kit is insane, she can one shot you so quickly that you have 0 counterplay.

The only reason she's become predictable is because she's been around long enough to where people have figured out everything she does. Diana is also an AP assassin and with her kit she should definitely be gankeable early game.

Also I am frustrated about this, but in the end, you playing perfectly should never guarantee a win. There are 9 other players there that can influence a game, and you being able to control it alone should not be an aspect of the game (despite me wanting it as well) as it can allow players who shouldn't necessarily be climbing to get wins.

0 Hogapu7/18/2018, 6:40:12 PM2 votes

Arcsecond's point of view on the topic : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlVnh6K08b0&t=5s

FlashnFuse7/19/2018, 12:20:13 AM2 votes

+1 for the Diana love. I've always tried to get our lunar girl some attention, I hope you succeed.

hhaavviikk7/19/2018, 6:42:13 AM2 votes

diana needs to be reworked not buffed her W > Q > R one shot playstyle is obnoxious to face

GodlyBane7/19/2018, 6:51:43 AM2 votes

i looked, shes pretty hot tbh

Jack Garrus7/19/2018, 8:16:01 AM2 votes

I like her lore and design but I find her really boring to play. I think she needs a rework

Sexy Jack Rabbit7/19/2018, 11:12:41 AM2 votes

I feel like she is a good candidate after karma.

Diana like Karma is mostly 90% okay Art-wise.

But their kit needs modernizing.

Q + R + R just doesn't cut it nowaday.

Shatter the Sun7/19/2018, 6:37:22 PM2 votes

I think they should keep her gameplay linear. Some simplicity is good for the game. They should add some more effects to her abilities and change around the numbers to give her kind of a fresh coat of paint since most know how to deal with her. More ways for her abilities to interact with moonlight.

BobaFlautist7/19/2018, 5:28:29 PM1 votes

They should really balance her around her passive. Allow you to stack it up two times (like Riven's) so you can q-ult for the reset without wasting stacks, give her a slow on w or something so she can stick longer, reduce her Q and W base damages and Mana costs but give them like a bonus hp or total ad ratio, and lastly, and most importantly, take away her bonus attackspeed on passive and give her a decent base attack speed.

Basically, make her more like irelia.

9058/18/2018, 12:22:09 AM1 votes

I couldn't agree more and I've noticed as well what we all Diana mains know - the need for changes. I have even made a post about it, with my own thoughts about the current state of Diana.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/Efkr796j-a-comment-idea-towards-upcoming-diver-update

Her kit lacks many valuable keypoints, which nowdays are essential in nearly every champion design. She has no escape, her ms is quite low compare to current standard, Nashors is tbh only good item for melee ap champion. Wit's end is just old and fixed amount of bonus dmg every basic is not in todays standard favor. On the other hand we have multiple well working items for ad melee champions. Overall items for ad champions are much better and offer much more. Her game play is linear and pretty much "famine or feast". They classify her as a diver, but she cannot sustain in the fight long enough and that's because her W is not enough and there aren't really any good tanky items on her that would work. And what's most important for me, her E sucks a lot. I mean it, this skill mana cost is huuuge, it provides nearly nothing and it's animation + channel time is so long that everyone 90% times manage to escape it with their dash.

In short words -> Diana's kit is just old and it needs adjustments/changes.

I would see her as 50% focus on aa and 50% focus on abilities type of champion.

Beacon Academy7/18/2018, 8:08:01 PM1 votes

Malzahar Diana should get reworked by the great repertoir /s

HaIlMonitor7/18/2018, 5:20:33 PM1 votes

I have always felt she was pushed out of the game when Ekko Came out. His kit is just simply better in most situations except damage, which trading some damage for lots of utility is usually better. She could use some updating though for sure.

Ashenvall7/18/2018, 11:19:26 PM1 votes

Diana "fighter" yerk....

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Diana have to be an AP assassin. AP fighter are not viable anyway.... Except maybe on-hit ADC

AyoLiko4207/18/2018, 4:22:47 PM1 votes

Same for ekko it's kinda sad now really

Hyquiem7/20/2018, 7:13:01 AM1 votes

Ap hypercarries should be a class now.

FridgesArePpl27/19/2018, 2:32:15 PM1 votes

The jungle changes killed her playability in the jungle (not that she was great before).