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Regarding Rek'Sai and her Tremor Sense

ForMyNextTrick·12/12/2014, 2:42:31 PM·6 votes·11,813 views

Okay so, I believe that right now Rek'Sai's tremor sense can be seen by teammates, similarly to Rengar ult and seeing the enemies. Unlike Rengar, Rek gives up a lot for tremor sense, mostly vision. I might just be being nitpicking when I say this just because I like the champ so much, but I feel that teammates should not be able to see her Tremor sense.

First of all teammates gain the ability to see into the fog of war while giving up nothing while Rek'Sai's gives up a lot of vision for it.

Thematically I feel that Rengars ult demonstrates his ability to hunt down and track the enemies, leading his teammates toward them, hence they see the same red glow on enemies. Sort of like a hunting party following a single tracker through the woods. Whereas I see Rek'Sai's tremor sense as a way of reading the environment while under ground rather than purely tracking down enemies.

Thanks for easing and great job with Rek'Sai, gonna be player her for a long time regardless of any changes you make or don't make!

16 Comments

RiotBeat Punchbeef12/13/2014, 3:37:42 AM11 votes

The original design for Tremor Sense had it only visible to Rek'Sai and we actually played it that way for a really long time and it does make a lot of sense thematically that only she can see it. However, for teams that aren't using voice chat, each ping is crucial and must be communicated. The most efficient way to do this is generally through our in game ping system. This isn't ideal as pings are limited within a short duration and don't always clearly communicate exactly what you mean. Teams forced to communicate this way (solo queue) are at a tremendous disadvantage and we didn't want organized teams to be the only ones who get to see the full benefit of Tremor Sense.

Ø Flex12/12/2014, 3:05:27 PM9 votes

Teammates being able to see is the right thing. Teamwork OP.

Vore Monster12/12/2014, 2:49:12 PM7 votes

Why would you give up teammates being able to see tremor sense? That's one of the three whole key elements they meant in creating tremor sense.

Burrowed Temor sense view is about the same as a normal FoV, besides the ability to see invisible unit footsteps and tracking movement across walls without the need of a ward.

Giving up teammate tremor sense is like asking Riot to allow only seeing the FoV of your played character. And using rengar as a comparison is not right, as he uses a different form of vision when ultid.

Dr Clueless PhD12/12/2014, 3:13:18 PM5 votes

Theme or not, cutting off your teammates from sharing information with you is STRONG. Like, holy shit strong. There's a reason there are only a couple ways to do it in LoL. One is an ultimate, and the other only lasts for as long as it takes you to walk/dash out of the small circle. It's also just frustratingly disruptive.

Lumus Avatar12/12/2014, 3:30:09 PM3 votes

Oh, yeah! it can. I was playing support and Rek'Sai was jungling. She came bot to gank and the adc ran away. Rek'Sai and I chased outside of lane - going past the Krugs and I was able to Thresh Hook the ADC across the wall because I could see her blips!

It was awesome, but I don't think I should benefit from HER tremorsense.

lightdragoon8812/12/2014, 3:16:31 PM2 votes

Yeah...I'm going to disagree with you on teammates should not be able to see her Tremor sense.

Panwar12/13/2014, 1:06:16 PM1 votes

So you want to nerf her tremor ability because it comes at a high cost?

Meep Man12/15/2014, 1:18:11 PM1 votes

The bigger point is what it would be like if they couldn't see it.

"Rek'sai why are you heading over there?" Rek'sai spams pings "Rek'sai wtf do you want?" Rek'sai spams the pings as her enemy escapes "Rek'sai stop pinging, he IS GONE!" Rek'sai spams the pings continuously as she can see the enemy walking back and forth at Wolves "STAHP!"

Centuros12/12/2014, 4:54:11 PM1 votes

Unlike Rengar, Rek'Sai gives up a lot for tremor sense Therefore, she should also give up her ability to help allies, because screw your team

This is what I see. Seriously, there should be no reason to help allies. Soraka gives up her very health to heal allies - this sounds akin to telling Riot that she shouldn't be able to heal others since she's sacrificing her own health.

JevelFaithful12/12/2014, 5:29:12 PM1 votes

Does that mean only rengar should see his ult? Or only lee should see invisible with his W? Or only WW should see his Scent of Blood? Or having a permanent Noc ult on you (as other people pointed out the field of view)? Because those are all personnal senses of the champions, not team abilities. And the other members did not pay anything for them.

The team benefits from Rek's tremor sense in her fied of view (at least I gues so). The team as a whole pays something for the tremor sense : rek's vision. Just like the team "pays" the price of rengar's ult cooldown.

Talamare12/12/2014, 6:47:59 PM1 votes

If teammates could not see it

Then people who have voice communication with reksai would have an advantage It also would force reksai to basically spam pings to show where enemies are going

Jefftiffy12/13/2014, 3:45:35 AM1 votes

Ok so I will just ping the map for every tremor I see on a champ. Have fun listening to the nonstop pings.

TheEggmanWeNeed12/13/2014, 4:44:48 AM1 votes

Dont forget that she also shares vision with teamates. While it limits her own vision, she can still see anything that they see. So, if you take tremor sense away from her teamates, youd need to take that shared vision from her as well.