I founding a scripting Fiora :C

DoNotDenyMe·Aug 21, 2015·25 votes·5,554 views

I was Cho Gath. She dodged all my Cho Gath ults and even Garen's ult.

I mean, predicting my ult is ok. Since I usually ult her when she's low. But how does she predict a garen ult in the middle of a fight? There's no way she knew that Garen was gonna ult her when she still had 80% hp. She has not been struck by a single ult from my team except when her w is down. I have ulted her about 4 times during laning phase. She dodged them ALL.

As far as I can see, she managed to dodge more of my R than our entire team's QWE combined. Also during laning phase, she has not dodged a SINGLE one of my Q and W as cho gath. So how does she dodge every single one of my R?

You might counter argue by saying that she's didn't dodge my Q and W because she was saving her w for my ult. But what about pre-6? If she is able to dodge all of my post-6 ult, than she should be able to dodge a few of my pre-6 Q and W. She didn't.

I'm going to send a support ticket for this. But I just wanted to let out my rage here first. QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ

Some Facts: She suddenly started playing Fiora over past 7 days. 74 out of all her total of 106 Fiora games has been over the past 7 days. She has 44 wins and 30 losts. Did she suddenly find that she is a God at Firoa, with Faker level reaction, able to dodge ults but nothing else?

TR:DL- I seek the disembowelment of this Fiora. My Pride as a Shen main Demands this Act of justice. I presume that if I was Shen, she would dodge about 1/100 of my taunts due to luck.

47 Comments

KoldheartedjspAug 21, 201516 votes

I'm not saying he's not cheating

But...

You know that game in those ticket arcades where the light spins around really really fast and the jackpot is the center light? Some peoole have the reaction/timing to get it within a couple tries and keep doing it. There are some people that could have those twitch like reflexes

Also keep in mind, he simply needs to press W (I believe this is how it works fml if I'm wrong) it's not like he needs to have precise movement

Troy242621Aug 21, 20153 votes

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I'm not saying he's not cheating

But...

You know that game in those ticket arcades where the light spins around really really fast and the jackpot is the center light? Some peoole have the reaction/timing to get it within a couple tries and keep doing it. There are some people that could have those twitch like reflexes

Also keep in mind, he simply needs to press W (I believe this is how it works fml if I'm wrong) it's not like he needs to have precise movement

Those games are literally rigged to only allow a win every so often, and will prevent wins after a threshold has been met. Probably not the best analogy. Lol.

Zenthon PrimeAug 21, 20151 votes

Really? I won on one of those on my first try and went on to win 3/5 attempts.

ArkenStormAug 21, 20152 votes

really? i win 4/5 times. I go to an arcade and win hundreds of tickets from just those.

UltîmaAug 22, 20151 votes

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really? i win 4/5 times. I go to an arcade and win hundreds of tickets from just those.

"My anecdotal, and singular experience, of this phenomenon must apply to everything and everyone around me. It is also incontrovertible proof that those devices are rigged for winning."

ArkenStormAug 22, 20151 votes

oh hey, I was asking a legitimate question, not knowing those things were rigged because I win most of the time and have never experienced a limit thing.

IpolsAug 22, 20151 votes

I used to work at an arcade, 10% is skill, 90% is "The machine decided it's time someone wins." I could explain how it's programmed but I'd be offtopic with the thread :D

ArkenStormAug 22, 20151 votes

cool, that's useful to know. Doesn't mean I have still won thousands of tickets from those haha. also who cares about off topic with the thread? :P

IpolsAug 22, 20151 votes

I care xD have a nice day buddy!

KoldheartedjspAug 21, 20151 votes

no they aren't. when the jackpot is won, it would get reset and go back to a very low ticket number, and every coin you stick in it goes up by 1.

I've seen people win it within a few of the reset

KemoBigDSabiAug 22, 20151 votes

Umm i actually am really good at hitting that jackpot light and the problem isn't it being rigged to win a certain amount of times but that the prize tickets reset after being hit so you have to wait for a bunch of people to suck and get it back up. I have literally hit all 4 sides of the 4 player one within like 7 trys

TurquoiseYoshiAug 21, 20156 votes

This is one of the reasons I wish archived replays were a thing. Because then you could find every game ever done, and be able to see these sorts of things.

gubigubiAug 21, 20151 votes

well i mean you can download lolreplay or lol summoner info and a bunch of other replay software that records it all for you. I would recommend summoner info it seems to run pretty well.

TehNACHOAug 21, 20155 votes

Check if she was a Yi or Fizz player before.

Most Yi/Fizz players are already trained to respond to split second skills with moments of invulnerability.

DoNotDenyMeAug 21, 20155 votes

She was a Xerath main before she started playing Fiora. And from what I know, there is alot of xerath scripters out there compared to other champs.

Zenthon PrimeAug 21, 20152 votes

Xerath mains are really good at skillshots. That's the defining factor for Xer mains, not reaction times.

Source: I am a Xerath main.

BluePolarizerAug 22, 20151 votes

can confirm that my dodging skills have decreased significantly when I switched from being Yi only last season to picking up Hecarim, Nautilus and Maokai.

Xerath mains aren't really known for super fast reflexes though.

WooBeeWooAug 21, 20153 votes

I can totally see a "block ults with riposte" script being available and op as hell on fiora. Having started to main her after the rework (cause now she's viable) I know that prediction is everything with the riposte and I have blocked malph ult, cho ult, skarner ult etc etc. But not consistently, switching it up like hitting a Garen ult at 80% life.... no there's no way that was prediction and reflexes like that aren't reasonable over the internet especially consistently against cho and garen. My guess is it was a script.

RenthaeusAug 21, 20152 votes

You use your Q and ult her in midair. Duh.

DoNotDenyMeAug 21, 20151 votes

The time it takes for me to reach her is shorter than the same duration of the knock up. :( Unless it a point blank Q. But...a ap cho gath in melee range of a Fiora :C. The Horrors of such a Complex and Bright thought.

ConturbatioAug 22, 20152 votes

Defuq? It's much easier to predict & parry a Garen's ult than a Cho'Gath's !!! (unless you're silenced since you can't even cast a spell)

iltAug 22, 20152 votes

I mean... you're Cho'Gath. When you walk into the enemy's face, WTF do you do besides ult?

DoNotDenyMeAug 22, 20151 votes

...So...What if she was the one who walked into my face :C Besides. Walking into melee range doesn't entirely mean that I will ult the moment I'm in range. She was somehow able to predict the exact timing of my ult even if I aa her a few times before hand.

Sniper 0Aug 21, 20151 votes

Ehh I mean I started maining zac about a week ago. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43886766#ranked-stats

My winrate on zac is higher than hers. o.o

DoNotDenyMeAug 21, 20153 votes

I'm not trying to pull out a rank card out anything, but this is at mid-diamond elo. It is pretty rare at this elo to suddenly do extremely well with a champ that you never played before. I'm speaking this out of personal experience. People usually just main a champ for each lane rather than picking up a champ and going Veteran-style with that champ.

Sniper 0Aug 21, 20152 votes

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I'm not trying to pull out a rank card out anything, but this is at mid-diamond elo. It is pretty rare at this elo to suddenly do extremely well with a champ that you never played before. I'm speaking this out of personal experience. People usually just main a champ for each lane rather than picking up a champ and going Veteran-style with that champ.

It's not like she's mechanically complicated. It's not impossible for someone to do this but it's unlikely. You also lack any actual proof that they're scripting. You would need to record a game and post it or something. :/ Cho's ult doesn't even have a noticeable windup but you telegraph. You all but walk into melee range to ult with cho, same goes for garen. If I'm low and I see you coming in I know your ult is coming. Garens ult is also telegraphed and it has a windup as well so it would be much easier to avoid than a cho ult. People can flash shen's e so it's probably the easiest to read. If she were scripting she probably would have dodged your q as well.

A recorded game would be necessary to prove that she was actually able to do all of this though.

Mentioning rank is pulling rank btw. ==

DoNotDenyMeAug 21, 20153 votes

I understand what your saying, but this Fiora was able to "predict" our ults even when we regularly wouldn't ult. My main example would be Garen's ult at her when she was at 80% health. It was 4v1, Garen was caught out. They were just attacking Garen. Garen suddenly decided to ult Fiora for no reason, and Fiora decided to W at that very moment. It wasn't a once or twice thing. She specifically dodged ults, without fail, unless her w was on cd. I do not remember her dodging any of my Q and W. Also, I would be happy to show the recorded game if I somehow had one. I'm hoping that Riot will release some sort of replay function in the near future. This would help catch a lot of bannable offenses that which can't been seen by the chat log.

ArkenStormAug 21, 20151 votes

TBH if it was a 4v1, she may have intended to use her w as a slow and garen was unlucky enough to ult at that moment. Not saying that it was probable, but it IS a possibilty.

LankPantsAug 22, 20151 votes

There's a possibility she started playing it in normals first to get a grasp of the champ's mechanics and feel. Also 74 games is a fair few, Imaqtpie's been playing Fiora for less than that and he has a fair handle on all of her mechanics.

UltîmaAug 22, 20151 votes

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I'm not trying to pull out a rank card out anything, but this is at mid-diamond elo. It is pretty rare at this elo to suddenly do extremely well with a champ that you never played before. I'm speaking this out of personal experience. People usually just main a champ for each lane rather than picking up a champ and going Veteran-style with that champ.

Your OP literally stated that this person played OVER A HUNDRED games with that character. Wtf man. Of course anyone would acquire a stupid amount of in-game knowledge and dexterity if they played a character that much over such a short period of time.

DoNotDenyMeAug 22, 20151 votes

I meant that she suddenly started ranking with Fiora about 11 days ago. Over 11 days, she played Fiora over 100 times. So, she picked up Fiora 11 days ago, started spamming her, and went from high-mid plat to low-mid diamond over 11 days.

HaestroAug 21, 20151 votes

Fiora is op, that hotfix was a terrible change.

DJ Di0Aug 21, 20151 votes

Not saying this person wasn't scripting (I once faced a Lee Sin scripter that Q'd me from near red buff bush with no vision of me as I had just swept the area.) but Riposting Garen's ult isn't that hard. Cho's though, idk about that.

PorochuAug 21, 20151 votes

it might be santa claus

DoNotDenyMeAug 21, 20151 votes

Wait...How did you know Santa Claus was on my Team!

Edit: By Santa Claus, I mean the Santa Claus Gragas skin.

Guy Fox TeemoAug 21, 20151 votes

You literally JUST have to press W, it has no cast time, on the doge part.

GorgannanAug 21, 20151 votes

if he's in ult range, which as cho, he probably is not.

doiminat0r3600Aug 22, 20151 votes

It'd be really bad if she was able to script ignites. Because she can parry ignites.

iamthegoatofwarAug 22, 20151 votes

Haha i remember doing that one time. Zed decided to ignite me and i like dodged his ult and ignite which was odd...honestly can't remember if he tried to ignite at the end or before he hit r tho. was a few weeks back.

OyddAWqJ5rAug 22, 20151 votes

TR:DL- I seek the disembowelment of this Fiora.

You want to make her poop?

SouL1essAug 22, 20151 votes

Garen and Cho'gath ult have significant cast times and if the player has slight above-average reaction speed, using Riposte to block those ults isn't strange at all.

ApexInTheCircleAug 22, 20152 votes

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Garen and Cho'gath ult have significant cast times and if the player has slight above-average reaction speed, using Riposte to block those ults isn't strange at all.

cho gath's is pretty instant.

NommyPancakeAug 22, 20151 votes

Here: na.op.gg

You can record replay using this site.

Apparently, "someone" recorded some of her Fiora's game.
I haven't watched it and verify them.

I may watch one or two of her game and see it myself later.

DoNotDenyMeAug 22, 20151 votes

There's seriously video of her games? Any chance you might be able to lead me in the direction of those videos?

NommyPancakeAug 24, 20151 votes

Go to the website: na.op.gg

You can use this website to look up information and/or recording someone else match.

When someone is playing, you click on the "Ingame Info," then "record".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Mbp4_KN34

I try to spectate his match, but I can't now because those matches were played on last patch.

Meep ManAug 24, 20151 votes

Well there is really only one reason Garen or Cho'Gath approach you. Garen's also has a small animation beforehand. I can see it being possible. Track her games. Then we see.