Remove the noobtrap that is Bloodrazor?

Quex Fehftir·Aug 12, 2016·3 votes·492 views

I don't understand this item, as it is basically useless in this game. It takes a ridiculous amount of farm to actually be useful, and any jungler who ignores their team long enough to get that farm at any reasonable time has basically lost the game for their team already. Then even better, you get people buying it on Udyr without building any tanky, to end up totally useless in team fights. They also have no waveclear since they tend to go tiger a vast majority of the time, so can't split push or 1v1 either. Why is this even in the game at this point?

17 Comments

Darkslayer85Aug 12, 20163 votes

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Zach SandwhichAug 12, 20162 votes

Why do you think blood razor needs farm? You only need the gold for it then bam its a pretty good item if your building any amount of AS since it gives %Health DMG or something like that, which makes it really good for the AS junglers who usually have problems with tanks. I don't know the cost of bloodrazor off the top of my head but it can't be too extremely expensive compared to the other jungle items.

Darkslayer85Aug 12, 20161 votes

Costs the same.

Zach SandwhichAug 12, 20161 votes

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Costs the same.

Alright just didn't know since I rarely play jungle.

Darkslayer85Aug 12, 20161 votes

It's fun once you get good at it.

There's just that pleasure you get from snowballing a lane and adapting to various situations.

And the added bonus of having a good jungler (yourself).

Zach SandwhichAug 12, 20161 votes

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It's fun once you get good at it.

There's just that pleasure you get from snowballing a lane and adapting to various situations.

And the added bonus of having a good jungler (yourself).

I just like support/top more since I love to play tanks (in case you couldn't tell by my top three champs Shen Nautilus Leona hehe xd) and the jungle really doesn't support that half the time with lower ELO junglers mostly having to carry ( MasterYi ) in my experience.

Quex FehftirAug 12, 20161 votes

Okay to go all the way back, my wording was super bad. Needing farm isn't the right way to put it. But I swear everyone who buys this in the jungle does nothing but farm with it. They don't ever want to gank or anything. Not that people should pick losing lanes, but it's not always a possibility to avoid due to how draft works. Maybe it's just cause my elo is rather low, but literally every time I have seen this built in a match so far, that jungler has basically ignored the team. It is by far the most annoying thing in the world, especially when they pick something like Udyr and we already have no or a small front line.

TattersallAug 12, 20162 votes

… … … …Are you talking about Devourer?

Quex FehftirAug 12, 20161 votes

Nah my wording was bad, that was my mistake. But spending your first 2.3k gold on an AS/on hit item when you are a melee champion is basically a death sentence as a jungler. Unless you get lucky enough that all of your lanes win and literally don't need you in the game, or you get kills and snowball hard. Though it is rather hard to actually get kills with an item that gives you light fast hits as opposed to slow stronger ones, especialyl in the early game. People who build this want to try to carry their team, but this is totally backwards as to how to do it as a jungler no? Considering the jungler is the only role in the game that can impact anywhere on that map at any given point in the first 10-15 mins.

TattersallAug 12, 20162 votes

I think I get what you're saying. Personally, I usually don't actually complete my jungle item's enchantment until late mid game, when that 4% max hp on-hit actually does something. I consider Bloodrazor a late game item, so it's better to build different items in the early game.

Michael702Aug 12, 20161 votes

What are you talking about? It only costs 1625 gold. You get that in 2 jungle clears.

69469238DEL1Aug 12, 20161 votes

Yeah the best Master Yi players in the game don't ever build this item

PapaGreg21Aug 12, 20161 votes

I think it is great for WW and some others. I main Shyvana and find it pretty garbage.

AlutrosityAug 12, 20161 votes

I build it on Udyr regardless of whether I'm going tiger or phoenix and it is still useful for me. Other champions I build it on are Trundle, Olaf, Nocturne.