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Tristana needs to be given a proper niche

doodlebob666·5/29/2017, 7:05:53 PM·25 votes·2,303 views

Currently tristana is a grab bag of parts from other hyper carriers(who she mostly predates) having weaker parts from each of their kits

She has less range than KogMaw Twitch Jinx when they have their steriods up, her only advantage is that her's is constant and with no draw back, but it is still less advantagous than what these guys have

She has a reset that is worst than jinx's by far, and even arguably worst than twitch's because he also gets a reset on his attackspeed steriod

She doesn't have as much aoe as jinx, or twitch and her wave clear is way worst than Jinx

her dps is team fights is worst than litterally all of them

She isn't as mobile as Vayne

she can't fight tanks mid game like KogMaw Vayne

She can't defend herself like Vayne

The only thing that trist can do better than the others is push turrets, but Jinx is arguably better at that than her

Generalists aren't necassarily unhealthy to a role, Oriannia is a generalist mage that has been viable and rarely dominates the meta, but tristana shouldn't be one, or else she is going to have to be a weak champ,

my suggestion is to push her more towards the seiging marksman since she's the only one who has an ability that directly interacts with turrets, making her bomb stacks go from 30% bonus per auto to 50% on turrets would give her a reason to be picked over the others, since she can now turn seige situations heavily in your teams favour

76 Comments

Tobias Brackner5/30/2017, 3:41:31 AM9 votes

Tristana has a niche. She's the safest Marksman and arguably the best teamfighter of the Marksmen.

She also has strong tools to be a lane bully against anyone that isn't a straight lane bully ( Lucian ) and even then the math might show up pretty good for her.

WinTheWarOnPants5/30/2017, 1:05:03 AM9 votes

Pls no more "But muh uniqueness reworks" tris is the ONLY adc that i actually enjoy playing. She is also one of the only adc's that actually plays like an adc anymore. She is weak AF because she didn't get insane ability scaling like the adc's in the update and she doesn't scale with the overtuned AD caster items. The item 3087 buffs helped her, but she still can't compete with all the AD casting early game adc's, that also scale really well with item 3153 late. It seems like things are about to start going to calm down with the Caitlyn and item 3153 nerfs tho. But dear god tris is fine kit wise.

ZephyrDrake5/29/2017, 7:21:52 PM6 votes

her niche is that she melts turrets faster than them. You pick Trist because you want someone who takes turrets fast and has a pretty good late game to boot. Sorry but she doesn't need more damage to turrets

KoKoboto5/30/2017, 5:00:47 AM5 votes

I think her niche is that she has the best self peel out of all marksmen. If your team is full engage but the enemy have divers and you want to be kinda safe go for Tristana. If you have say Leona , Sona, Soraka, Blitzcrank etc... go for Tristana.

Sulrana5/30/2017, 2:53:44 AM4 votes

Her main problem is her damage ratios are weird. If her AP ratios got hammered and they added a AD ratio to her ult and jump she would see more play.

Also her passive on her e makes CSing difficult. If they added that passive to her q active it would make more sense. Maybe make champions that died while q is active explode in a bigger radius for more damage

IPromiseTomorrow5/29/2017, 7:18:16 PM3 votes

I would like her to be the burst adc add some additional scaling to her bomb.

Or AD scaling to her ult.

She's is good against towers.

What I like about Tristana is her combo can solo Adc's at 75% health (maybe more is been months) And I use that to Surprise twitch players and immobile adc's.

Although Trist mains know better than me I'm not experienced with her.

Acheron165/30/2017, 7:50:08 AM3 votes

The problem with Tristana is that when her Q is down she has one of the slowest attack speeds in the game for a marksman and that only one of her abilities has AD scalling.

She was actually stronger before she received her VGU, having higher range (safer) and more natural attack speed (less CD dependent), despite the lack of AD scalling in her kit at the time (her E still had great base damage).

Now she just feels lackluster until late game and even then, she feels weaker compared to an actual hyper carry.

Fear the Kayn5/29/2017, 10:07:21 PM2 votes

AP trist had a niche. Then Riot removed AP trist because they don't want players having fun, just like with AP Yi.

OtterlyLost5/30/2017, 5:42:43 PM2 votes

She does not actually have less range than the ones you mentioned. At level 18, Tristana has the highest range of any AD, Jinx, Kog, and Cait all included. She also has a very clear defined niche to me; she is the safest and best self peeling hyper carry. She has fine DPS in teamfights and her reset is way more useful than Jinx's for chasing people into a losing teamfight and she has way more mobility than Jinx could ever dream of. There was a time, before they continued to flood the meta with hyper carries to take her spot, that she was the best hyper carry that could exist.

And as a Tristana Main, I want her to stay as a hyper carry. :/ To me, her identity has always been super safe, long ranged late game ADC; the tower taking bullshit is honestly secondary and I have no interest in her being turned into a tower taking bot. Honestly, I would like to see her E changed all together as its extremely clunky and less reliable than her original E was for damage. It helps her take towers which is cool and all but there are others that do it better and already have that niche(Jinx and Ziggs).

I would like them to change her E and put more emphasis on her jump and ult. Shift more of her power budget into her Jump and ult to emphasize the fact that she is the safest hyper carry late game and maybe change her Q so its less CD reliant. Maybe make it something like Kled's Violent Tendencies on steroids or something because a lot of her issues are that her power, as an AA late game ADC, is tied up in long, lengthy CDs; if her Q is down, she loses TONS of trade potential and unless she gets an assist or kill, she has to be careful about engaging with her W as its also long. Her E also has a very long CD and honestly, I feel, holds too much of her power.

I do not want to see her turned into a siege bot. We don't need more of those. :/ I'd rather see her self peel and mobility get emphasized more because that is her identity; the self peeling, long ranged, mobile hyper carry.

warpenguin5555/29/2017, 11:35:21 PM1 votes

I thought she was supposed to be the siege queen or something