zed is too safe

Drider420·2/25/2016, 2:36:44 PM·72 votes·5,000 views

Zed has the craziest poke out of any assassin and the safest all in out of any champion ive ever seen. there is almost no downside to his playstyle. please nerf him or something he is insanely annoying and if your even descent with him you will win lane or get fed every game.

57 Comments

Mr Broken Wings2/25/2016, 2:41:10 PM10 votes

Uh, talon has a stronger poke. Zed got a nerf last patch for an item that didnt make him stronger. Zed has only the laning going for him, he has to splitpush against decent enemies and cant teamfight as well as other assasins like talon or mages. Zed overall is easyly countered by buying 1 item and he gives you enough time to react to his stuff. He is save, thats true but thats about it, if he cant win lane hell be useless or subpar compared to other champions. Tldr: l2p

Narasimha2/25/2016, 3:05:08 PM7 votes

there is almost no downside to his playstyle.

You know, other than the fact that his burst is delayed and has THE most counterplay of any assassins that isn't Kat. Not a downside at all.

FurretHasAGlock2/25/2016, 3:09:25 PM6 votes

There is an insane amount of counter play to his kit. Skill shots? Dodge. Delayed execute? Zhonyas and QSS. Safe? He still has to go in on you, and his poke costs a lot of energy. He is a burst assassin, but with counterplay. There is still a thing called MIA? You can abuse him when he misses a Q, or uses his shadow in a bad place. In conclusion, Zed has the MOST COUNTERPLAY out of almost every assassin in the game.

Astôlfo2/25/2016, 4:08:09 PM4 votes

Not another damn repwhoring Zed QQ thread. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Iqqi2/25/2016, 4:52:56 PM3 votes

yes. Zed by design is probably impossible to balance. If you nerf his damage than he can no longer fulfill his initial design intent to "assassinate" people, but the fact that he can clone->ult+combo->clone to safety means he is basically safe. Personally I would make it so he can not take his clone back after ulting. If he wants to go all in. He should actually go all in. Not this version today when he is in and out in seconds.

Forbidden Zed2/25/2016, 5:43:28 PM2 votes

I know how to counter zed, I have won many battles this way, turn of your shadow in league of legends graphics

HardlyAwake2/26/2016, 12:02:23 AM2 votes

Agreed, Zed is extremely annoying. Strong harassment, easy evade.

Zone of Endless2/26/2016, 12:44:56 AM2 votes

BUT BUT

He's melee

That's a weakness :^)

General Esdeath 2/25/2016, 5:37:25 PM2 votes

Except to play safe on him you have to never use his shadow, which halves your poke and damage. And his ult is so easy to counter, just use a zhonyas/QSS or any escapes INCLUDING FLASH

Papa Slothy2/26/2016, 3:24:31 AM1 votes

Zed is fairly safe but the whole point is that he excels in craziness, Zed can't ult into a teamfight and then just teleport out

NostolgicSkies2/26/2016, 4:02:33 AM1 votes

play Lissandra when he goes in Root him, cast Q, Ult him before the root comes up and Q again, ignite if needed. . . .zed has mobility?

WutsKraken2/26/2016, 8:04:06 AM1 votes

MonkeyKing Vladimir Chogath Lissandra Kayle crush him

alfavhunter2/26/2016, 7:35:13 PM1 votes

The one issue with zed is he is to safe for the reward he has

A proper best to zed would be this

Reduce the range he can jump to a shadow by 50% but if an enemy champion is near said shadow his range is increased by 100% putting no it back to live values

This keeps his engage the same but lowers the range he can just jump out of a fight after going in, if no enemy champion is near his "escape" shadow

Cherysse2/25/2016, 2:41:14 PM1 votes

It is true that he is too safe, but you can counter him by going to his shade, if you live...

The only nerf he needs is boom, reduce the width of his Q, BOOM dodge, BOOM more skill cap, BOOM counterplay.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/buOIBEzA-the-phoenixs-talon-icon-made-by-me-3

Knoyle2/25/2016, 5:48:25 PM1 votes

Zed is annoyingly safe, yes. He's not op. He's not an instawin either. I hate Zed as much as the next guy but it's only because of his early game and laning phase being annoying as hell.

tXQbsPrjN52/25/2016, 7:57:40 PM1 votes

Ye he is but Riot employees only know how to make and sell skins so what's the point of even talking about it anymore.

QNjixEktAn2/25/2016, 10:03:13 PM1 votes

i'd rather see adc nerfs hit hard then see zed nerfs. 4-8 ADC being played every game is just stupid as fuck and zed still loses to them cause their damage output is to insane.

Mizaya2/25/2016, 10:06:54 PM1 votes

He turns out to be not so useful if you're playing him and just farming. He can't kill anyone either without going into melee range.

BornAgainVirgin2/26/2016, 12:07:51 AM1 votes

Zed is fine. Unless this about duskblade on zed, thats something im avoiding 100%

Gypsyleeboy2/26/2016, 12:51:24 AM1 votes

or something

If only we had some plausible suggestions (that riot would probably ignore anyway)

Dracorean3122/26/2016, 2:54:29 AM1 votes

I'm hearing that he can safely farm for a melee champ, that way he doesn't get rekt by any ranged champ. which means any ranged champ can safely farm. Sidestepping a q must be no way to avoid his harass. If he gets a couple kills, yea he's hard to deal with, like any champ, however if you have 4 kills above a fizz and fizz gets one, gg.