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Perma ban warwick or nah?

WanderingHobbit·1/31/2018, 7:25:16 PM·7 votes·1,016 views

It seems to me that he is just so unfairly strong at the start of the game, and then he snowballs into an even stronger enemy. Insane lifesteal and damage, and dont forget his fear. No matter who I play in jungle, I always have to run when I see him because I know I would die if I tried to challenge him. Also, he counter jungles like no other jungle champion and can destroy a junglers game. Most of the time I have wards up in my jungle so I can have some control, but he is so fast that I cant do anything, and even if I were to get there before he takes the camp, he would just kill me and take it anyway.

If yall could make some suggestions on how to beat him, that would be great. Or should I just change my perma ban to him (currently Udyr cause I feel the same way about him actually.)

Please dont be a jerk, I am kindly asking for constructive criticism. Also, I dont enjoy playing champions that I consider to be broken, it just isnt fun to me, so please dont suggest playing him.

16 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon1/31/2018, 7:38:41 PM2 votes

Well, it depends on who you play. Some champions aren't going to do well into him. Namely champions that are fucked over by exactly what he is. Kindred in particular will suck into him. Champions with hard CC should do well. Give me what junglers you want, and I can probably tell you which ones suck into him, and give tips for those.

In general games, I'd make sure you keep a ward up at drake all the time., since he can take a very early drake (I think level 4).

x Royal Solo x1/31/2018, 7:57:34 PM2 votes

I main Warwick a few things that I've seen work really well are

Gank faster then him. someone with fast wave clear and a solid gank. Basically dont let him get a chance too get fed.
Bait him into a collapse. Start a fight near a laner or in your jungle and signal for help, have your team close in on him and hell be dead real quick. (Hopefully your teammates are paying attention)

A couple of good counter picks are JarvanIV Sejuani Shyvana LeeSin

Hayaishi2/1/2018, 12:21:34 AM1 votes

He's very easy to kite though.

rework trundle2/1/2018, 12:22:02 AM1 votes

dont forget his fear

Noted.

ILikeBBQMeatPie2/1/2018, 12:25:00 AM1 votes

How can you ban doge? Doge is cute. Get off my lawn you damn communist

roughvan2/1/2018, 12:45:07 AM1 votes

Just pick kayn and you beat him in any duel when you are above lvl 6 and have the ult up or you can just pick a tank, rammus is really fast and if you have good teammates they'll collapse on him if he tries to steal your buffs and you're fast enough to catch up to him and taunt him. You can pick nunu and lets see him steal your buffs if you are there, you will also be much more useful in team fights if you survive and don't die to him as nunu because of that nice buff, if you have some champions on your team that work well with nunu W, that will easily give you a big edge in team fights. If he goes cinderhulk route, he won't deal much damage and will just be there to fear and ult for cc, if he goes attack speed you can just pick frozen heart on nunu or any other tank jungler and shut him down along with the adc in team fights.

There are many strategies, these are just the ones on top of my head, just think things though and you can always pick something that can work against him.

It Hertz When IP2/1/2018, 1:36:50 AM1 votes

item 3123 item 3076 WW has built in sustain, so make him suffer for it. Has added benefit of screwing with the enemy ADC.

High MS/mobility is nice too, if you time it and dodge his ult he loses a lot of sticking power. Seen a lot of WWs lose a target because they telegraphed their ult too heavily.

Hard CC still cancels his ult, and both ult and Q put him in a relatively predictable area. Nami in particular ruins his day, but anyone with a hard CC whose counterplay is mostly "dodge it" will make him miserable.

Lastly, his hard CC and his DR are on the same ability, meaning that if you bait out one, you've baited both. In addition, that AoE fear comes with a warning period.

Harden Stepback2/1/2018, 2:14:29 AM1 votes

Warwick needs nerfs

hes been sitting at 54-ish% winrate for the past month according to champion gg.

Ahri Baka2/1/2018, 2:19:50 AM1 votes

no doubt , he is the strongest jungler

Oxyrotten2/1/2018, 2:23:31 AM1 votes

Nah

Jamaree2/1/2018, 4:15:45 AM1 votes

Just like every champion in the game, he has match ups that he does good into and match ups he does poorly into, and he does have quite clear flaws.

While certainly better then before, his pre six ganking capabilities leaves certain things to be desired. He is kitable, and unless he is close to you, lacks a dash, thus, you can kite him. Kiting is still his worst enemy and his fear gives him damage reduction BUT, not CC reduction which means you can kite him until the cows come home.

His sustain actually isn't even a thing UNTIL he is half life, he literally doesn't have part of his passive until he is half dead. While the sustain itself is substantial for sure, the fact he doesn't have it, nor have control of it is something to consider.

Honestly, there is no better way of figuring out how to deal with a champion then by playing him and he is literally only 450 BE, buy him and try him out and you will see his weaknesses first hand.