@Riot Nerf all Marskmen to the level of Varus and MF

LordTobiothan·10/8/2014, 3:03:27 AM·7 votes·816 views

I say we make a varus/mf adc bar, like the renekton bar this is the level of strength the class should be at, outside of laning vs another broken adc, these two do their jobs in a teamfight a siege or a push. Any game that is a varus vs an mf goes like Riot always imagined this class would work, yet they continue to crank out adc's that can 1v3 or bully lanes from level 1.

Instead of multi dash, high burst, high sustain, crit machines, we should have no dash (barring cases like ezreal where it is his niche), zero burst, consistent sustain, crit machines, and only two adc's follow that currently.

15 Comments

ValyrianBlade10/8/2014, 3:04:45 AM4 votes

Sounds boring, no thanks. Adc is already far less popular than top or mid, why nerf it?

Emmy Cha0s10/8/2014, 3:59:36 AM3 votes

"Boo hoo, I fed the ADC 8 kills and now he can 2-shot me. Nerf all ADCs!"

All this ADC qqing that's drowning out the boards is getting old. The only problem here is, you need to stop intentionally feeding and get over the fact that there's nothing OP about the class. Stop being so mad just because your team reported you for assisting the enemy ADC.

LordTobiothan10/8/2014, 3:12:48 AM2 votes

Its boring because it is just right click and mash your free escape button. It is quite a bit more play when using one of these two less abusive adc's.

You have a biased view because the fun adc's cant handle the adc's that play themselves.

Narasimha10/8/2014, 3:17:34 AM2 votes

You do realize all adcs have their own strength and weaknesses, right? No other adc can replicate Curse of the Sad Bullet Time, in all its variations. And Varus is still great at countering most other adcs if you take the time to learn him (Hint: he outranges most of them, not counting steroids.)

TheRainInSpain10/8/2014, 12:48:34 PM2 votes

Contrary to what people may think, but MF received some fairly good buffs in the last few months. She's balanced, serves the niche of an aggressive lane bully caster (spell spamming) ADC. She, however lacks an ability to chase down annoying AD casters that have mana-less dashes or can Arcane Shift over walls. She still gets out ranged by Caitlyn and Ashe. Her "mobility" factor is just a Boots of Mobility effect. She needs dedicated hard CC to deal her stupid damage at late game. I'd say MF is in a good position, but she doesn't fit the "AD Caster Meta" (aka Lucian meta)

Varus, on the other hand, feels clunky to use. It's almost like he's a ranged version of Old Sion, except not as old. He's got qualities for AD and for AP, does not do well with hybrid builds, and shares an ability type with Teemo. It's not that he's bad, it just feels weird to use him.

junglerboy1610/8/2014, 1:50:52 PM1 votes

You are looking at it wrong. Back when Riot was discussing the "Renekton bar", was an overpowered super dominant laner that could win virtually every match up. They wanted to buff weaker champs UP to his level because they finally realized that nerfing one bully just makes room for another. What they need to do for Varus and MissFortune is buff them up to the level of other caster style ADCs ( doesn't even need that much) such as Corki (One of my favorite caster ADCs, who also happens to be pretty well balanced atm) Riot needs to bring up the power level of these more combo/teamfight/utility ADCs, not nerf the others down. ADCs are kind of strong right now, but bringing them down when late game hyper scaling tanks are also meta will completely wreck the balance of the game (not saying it is well balanced now, but it would get worse).