As a solo queue support, I want to uninstall

Mandi Candy·Apr 19, 2016·4 votes·1,146 views

Solo queue, as a main support, trying to get out of bronze, has never made me enjoy a game less in my life. Every single adc I have been matched up with, as been absolutely abysmal. And then I finally got a friend to help me and go adc with me, and SURPRISE someone else gets bot adc instead of my friend. This queue system is absolutely dreadful. I don't even enjoy playing anymore. I'm sad and I miss the way this game used to be. And no, I'm not going to go top or jungle before anyone says that, I should be able to play a class and position I want without going through this. TERRIBLE queue system. Like, the absolute WORST.

30 Comments

ErockandrollApr 19, 20165 votes

My advice, play a mage support, Take over lane if the ADC Fcks up, become an APC.

mage supports always have that fall back option available to them.

Mandi CandyApr 19, 20161 votes

Seriously.

EtyrnaIApr 19, 20161 votes

I don't know why but I feel like I played against you recently..

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

My advice for you: don't support main in bronze or even silver. It's not worth the hassle and subsequent AIDS until you're in gold, where ADC are more reliable. Try to one-trick pony your way out of bronze, that's what I did anyway.

FovereApr 19, 20161 votes

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My advice for you: don't support main in bronze or even silver. It's not worth the hassle and subsequent AIDS until you're in gold, where ADC are more reliable. Try to one-trick pony your way out of bronze, that's what I did anyway.

This is pretty much the best way to climb bronze/silver. Find something that can carry your team in most situations and just ride it out until the gameplay quality stabilizes

EtyrnaIApr 19, 20161 votes

Also.. Did you just recently lose your Bronze 1 Promotional?

Sniper 0Apr 19, 20161 votes

I support main, pick a champ that can keep your adc alive o.o 75% of the work in botlane goes to the support. You're doing it wrong. :c

Top is actually worse than supporting to carry a game, because of your lack of interaction at the start of the game.

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

Not in bronze, and not in Higher tiers. If you're doing 75%, then you're wrong too. (I got a lot of support under my belt too, so I feel qualified on this.) I will say supports are vital to the success, but when you play correctly you're not but doing a bit of the work.

Sniper 0Apr 19, 20161 votes

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Not in bronze, and not in Higher tiers. If you're doing 75%, then you're wrong too. (I got a lot of support under my belt too, so I feel qualified on this.) I will say supports are vital to the success, but when you play correctly you're not but doing a bit of the work.

You sit in lane and make sure your ADC can farm or secure kills. You're doing the real work as a support. They just need to know how to last hit and not get out of position... as someone who has "a lot of support" under their belt should know.

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

You're simply there more or less babysitting the ADC Making sure he's fed, clothed, changing his diapers etc. The reason I say you're not doing even 50% of the work, is because you cannot carry a useless ADC but a good ADC can carry a useless support.

Sniper 0Apr 19, 20161 votes

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You're simply there more or less babysitting the ADC Making sure he's fed, clothed, changing his diapers etc. The reason I say you're not doing even 50% of the work, is because you cannot carry a useless ADC but a good ADC can carry a useless support.

Janna Nautilus Zyra Trundle Morgana Soraka Volibear Annie Blitzcrank Bard Supports can't carry he says. http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bitch-please-rage-face-240x180.png

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

Not against a competent bottom lane. What? did you assume your opponents suck like your adc? Nah. Btw trundle and Voli aren't supports.

Sniper 0Apr 19, 20161 votes

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Not against a competent bottom lane. What? did you assume your opponents suck like your adc? Nah. Btw trundle and Voli aren't supports.

http://probuilds.net/champions/details/Trundle Voli can be picked as an off meta support but Trundle is meta.

Adc's job is to right click for the majority unless they bring consistent utility to the team. Ashe Kalista Then you have your legit hard adc's Draven

Overall however the majority of the game they are right clicking and auto attacking for damage. Teams tend to be centered around keeping them alive, but sure they're doing all the work.

Edit* Damage=/=work. Setting up kills to get your adc fed is work

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

The logic behind Trundle support is a champion who simply destroys opponent while offering nothing more than that to his ally. He's simply a kill-lane support, and as such not a support. Leblanc Darius JarvanIV Velkoz Tryndamere Are very similar in that aspect.

Sniper 0Apr 19, 20161 votes

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The logic behind Trundle support is a champion who simply destroys opponent while offering nothing more than that to his ally. He's simply a kill-lane support, and as such not a support. Are very similar in that aspect.

Actually Velkoz is used as a support because of his long range poke and cc but that's beside the point. Trundle is a champion that throws up terrain. I don't think you understand how strong this is in the bot lane setting... You don't bring him for the raw damage. The guy has an ulti that shreds armor and mr, an e that throws up terrain (THAT SLOWS). A q that slows on hit and a movement speed buff to let him position himself better for going in for kills. HE is actually used to support because of how his kit works.

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

"Actually is used as a support" He's a damn kill lane, I've played him bottom a couple of times myself. HE'S NOT A SUPPORT!

He can act like one all he want's but he will NEVER be a support.

You're getting actual supports and Kill-lane "supports" mixed up.

Sniper 0Apr 19, 20161 votes

So what you're saying is that a support can't be part of a kill lane. Rammus

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

I suppose in that sense, yes. A kill lane and a Regular bottom lane are completely different. More often than not a kill lane has 2 different champions than would regularly be placed bottom.

So no, rammus is a not a support, but part of a possible kill lane comp. Is there something wrong with kill lanes? That's for you to decide, but they're not supports.

Sniper 0Apr 19, 20162 votes

Rammus = Ok... Also, kill lanes are just bad... If you don't manage to get a kill one of those laners is going to fall behind without farm. So yeah, there is something wrong with kill lanes.

Trynd, darius, lb, and j4 cannot reliably put out cc btw. They all need to get fed or they fall off super hard mid-late game. So if they end up not picking up kills they're going to be behind. Which is why they aren't used as supports. Of course you can just pull off any cheese below gold 3 so occasionally in gold a lot in bronze.

You clearly have no idea what constitutes a support.

Edit* Main support and then we can talk.

10InchTopApr 19, 20162 votes

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= Ok... Also, kill lanes are just bad... If you don't manage to get a kill one of those laners is going to fall behind without farm. So yeah, there is something wrong with kill lanes.

Trynd, darius, lb, and j4 cannot reliably put out cc btw. They all need to get fed or they fall off super hard mid-late game. So if they end up not picking up kills they're going to be behind. Which is why they aren't used as supports. Of course you can just pull off any cheese below gold 3 so occasionally in gold a lot in bronze.

You clearly have no idea what constitutes a support.

Edit* Main support and then we can talk.

I like you cuz we're saying the same thing and we're both actual support mains.... ahh validation.

10InchTopApr 19, 20162 votes

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The logic behind Trundle support is a champion who simply destroys opponent while offering nothing more than that to his ally. He's simply a kill-lane support, and as such not a support. Are very similar in that aspect.

Actually the reasoning behind Trundle support is his amazing Engage/Disengage with Pillar, combined with his ability to Cripple enemy tanks with his ult. Pros dont even take ignite on him hes not just a "Kill Lane Support" hes much more valued for his unique utility.

Edit: To Clarify.... Kill Lanes are two champions who are chosen to secure kills in Lane and snowball. Trundle can play a passive Lane and go even and is still doing it right, whereas a Ashe/Pantheon lane is severely gimped if they dont snowball. Trundle still brings massive utility to midgame teamfights and skirmishes because of his kit, not his raw dmg. The point is ur playing Trundle wrong as a support.... which he is.

10InchTopApr 19, 20162 votes

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Not against a competent bottom lane. What? did you assume your opponents suck like your adc? Nah. Btw trundle and Voli aren't supports.

Trundle is most definitely a Top-Tier Support in every region except NA.

Mandi CandyApr 19, 20161 votes

No. My last adc was 0/12/4

I can only heal so much while my trash adc has less than half the enemys CS and flashes for no reason.

LatetotheRaceApr 19, 20161 votes

Which is why you don't support in bronze.

LauchmelderApr 19, 20161 votes

Maybe it's a lack of lane presence on your side? It's not always the ADCs fault.

Watch this, if you can pull off stuff like that your lane presence alone is enough to keep both enemies away from any kind of farm in low elo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6bWcmK-w_M

OurLestradeApr 19, 20161 votes

Pick Braum. King of Solo Queue in my experience, passive is very clear even to the dumbest of ADCs. Bonus points if you man up and take Grasp of the Undying rather than Bond of Stone so you can beat up squishies 1v1. Hate Bond of Stone :O

TexicantApr 19, 20161 votes

It can be a crapshoot. I support and you can get quite a clear difference in the quality of adcs. Not much you can do to improve them so it turns more into, try to keep them alive

Mandi CandyApr 19, 20161 votes

fml

Linna ExcelApr 19, 20161 votes

Play champs who can help you win teamfights on your own... annie, zyra, blitzcrank, etc. There's no shame in rushing banner/zzrots either after your sightstone just use both actives.

MegaLobunnyApr 19, 20161 votes

Your friend didn't get his primary role and you're calling the queue system terrible? Support is one of my favorite roles and I can tell you that it's not the queue that's leading to you having abyssmal ADCs.