Counter jungling is useless

Siidoow··3 votes·2,653 views

Hello everybody,

Lately, i made a conclusion that counter jungling is useless when it comes to xp. Sometimes i steal 5 or more camps from the enemy jungler and still we will be the same level. I don't know if it's because there is a big catch-up experience in this patch, but it is making counter jungling useless. In season 7, when i have been taking ennemy camps, i would be 2 levels ahead.

Do you have any remarks about that ?

11 Comments

LTK KoRo2 votes

Counterjungling worth it only if you'll manage to steal a buff/krugs or kill a enemy jungler, random camps are kind of shitty after XP nerfs

Elite4Runner2 votes

It mostly depends on how the enemy jungler is playing.

You also need to remember that investing your time in counter jungling means you are also not available to spend that time ganking or clearing your own jungle.

If you are counter jungling an enemy jungler that is successfully ganking, you aren't really hurthing them. If you are counter jungling an enemy champion that is also counter jungling you, you are also not hurting them.

However, if you are counter jungling an enemy champion that is not ganking well, or trying to farm their own jungle, when they go to that camp only to find that it is already gone, they are wasting time, which costs them gold and exp.

Siidoow1 votes

Gold maybe, not xp. I just left from a game where i hard counter jungled rammus and he didn't gank well. Still at mid late we were at the same level. There is something called xp catch-up and it's not fair.

The thigh guy1 votes

I noticed it too. Specifically when they removed poachers dirk (for some stupid reason).

Noor Sakata1 votes

You used your time to counter jungle , enemy jungler had nothing to do so he ganked a lane , got a kill or assist and some xp from minions , at least the minion xp

Dr Dog1 votes

the exp make make it look useless, but the amount of gold you gain and deny from it is where it really stings

Hügö1 votes

Why steal camps that don't give exp anyway? Riot nerfed jungle exp to the ground, the only options to steal are buffs or krugs the rest is useless to steal except for the gold.

Siidoow1 votes

That's the point i'm bringing.

Tegash1 votes

Counterjungling only works if you prevent the opponent from poaching from you in return. Otherwise, the other jungler take no net loss overall.

BrightWîngs1 votes

I've also noticed this you do however get a gold lead at least Im not sure on how you can balance this because champions that are prone to getting counter jungled would just be hella fucked and playing from behind in jungle already feels like ass along with the current speed of the game it may feel impossible to come back from.

BrightWîngs1 votes

Also Im actually looking at the stats and I dont think you realize how HARD you actually fucked him over at 30 minutes you could afford to buy item 1416 item 3078 and item 3124 at 30 minutes he had item 1401 item 3193 and item 3110

so you spent 9458 gold

he was only able to spend 7700

you had a 2K gold lead on him with WAYYYY more efficient items I think this is quite fine because you gotta think what you're doing isnt exactly difficult youre just killing monsters when he isnt there lol. You took all the guys money at least let him have some levels XD

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