Two issues with Lux skins as a non lux player

Beerstein·May 19, 2015·73 votes·8,354 views

As a non lux player I've not brought this up in the past because it was only one way, now it's two ways so I hope Lux players will agree.

Steel Legion skin- Her ultimate is too thin on initial casting (before it goes nuclear) this has long been a popular skin because it gives an actual in game advantage, it's harder to dodge as it takes a second before you realize what's happening. Widen the initial beam on this skin to balance it more on par with her original skin.

Star Guardian lux- Her ultimate starts out too wide due to how bright it is, this makes it exceptionally easy to dodge on the outset of casting, narrow the initial casting beam a bit.

49 Comments

Vistha KaiMay 19, 201529 votes

Well, Steel Legion Lux is awful when it comes to playing aganist her. Not only her ult.

Chaotic ReksMay 19, 201512 votes

Good luck dodging her E

Vistha KaiMay 19, 20154 votes

Yeah, even when it's on the ground it's barely visible.

ChaoticPineconeMay 20, 20153 votes

remember when her Q looked like an autoattack?

junglerboy16May 20, 20151 votes

and just pray you don't get stuck in a match with a Lux who has invisible Es (just like Nid spears and undo cleavers, you can barely see the distortion vfx, but good luck spotting it before she pops it).

DurzakaMay 19, 20152 votes

I honestly find everything about Star Guardian Lux except her E significantly harder to play against.

Half the time i get hit by her Q i dont even realize it until im already free because of how soft the effect is compared to the rest of the game.

Vistha KaiMay 19, 20151 votes

Had no luck playing aganist Lux yet. Not that I had a chance, I've been having lags for the past two days, so I played about 4 games total.

BeersteinMay 20, 20153 votes

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Well, Steel Legion Lux is awful when it comes to playing aganist her. Not only her ult.

True, it's like those cars with blue headlights that blind everyone. Dammit lux fix your freaking headlights you inconsiderate Demacian!

Vistha KaiMay 20, 201517 votes

But those bumpers. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

DraazurMay 19, 20154 votes

The E on her new skin seems really hard to see for me imo as well...

KrigjerMay 19, 20153 votes

Also, is it just me, or does Lux's auto attack speed feel faster on Steel Legion than it does on Star Guardian?

Maybe just a visual issue for me, but it took some getting used to for last hitting after buying the new skin.

BarryedAliveMay 20, 20153 votes

I feel the same way! I missed so much CS today after picking it up. I felt like such a noob

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a39May 20, 20151 votes

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Also, is it just me, or does Lux's auto attack speed feel faster on Steel Legion than it does on Star Guardian?

Maybe just a visual issue for me, but it took some getting used to for last hitting after buying the new skin.

The animation is different, but the overall duration is the same.

CatrianMay 20, 20153 votes

I agree with both those suggested changes.I'm also disappointed that Star Guardian Lux's ultimate slipped past the pbe like that when they are clearly aware of the opposite end of the problem.Also wondering why steel legion Lux's ultimate still hasn't been adjusted after all this time.Steel Legion is banned from the LCS because it gives an advantage/is harder to dodge isn't it?I can't recall if it was mentioned she'd be getting any visual update anytime soon,which is the only reason I could think of why they're waiting to fix it.

NinjaFiferMay 20, 20153 votes

I still don't know why official matches aren't just straight up not allowing skins at all. If money and whatnot is on the line, why not just normalize everyone's models?

rampaging poetMay 20, 20151 votes

Free skin advertising.

BeersteinMay 20, 20152 votes

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Free skin advertising.

Maybe for the old skin everyone already knew about, but it's reverse advertising for the new one which hopefully gets Riot to do something about the issue.

cshakesMay 20, 20153 votes

My larger problem with Steel Legion is that I have no clue which of her projectiles is Q and which is W until I'm hit / they stop...

Yxgl222HaXMay 20, 20152 votes

lux? okay. -locks in zed-

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a39May 20, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 A Feeding Zed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PxwT7ETq,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-05-20T01:59:32.071+0000)

lux? okay. -locks in zed-

Lux isn't really weak again Zed. She can stay safe pretty fine, and then proceed to be a lot more useful after laning phase.

Yxgl222HaXJun 1, 20151 votes

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Lux isn't really weak again Zed. She can stay safe pretty fine, and then proceed to be a lot more useful after laning phase.

yeah mabye, good luck trying to 1v1 lux v zed if you cant land the q though

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a39Jun 2, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 A Feeding Zed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PxwT7ETq,comment-id=000600000001,timestamp=2015-06-01T19:01:27.259+0000)

yeah mabye, good luck trying to 1v1 lux v zed if you cant land the q though

Ya, assassin kills mage 1v1, what a surprise!

Yxgl222HaXJun 2, 20151 votes

not necessarily. others like lb ect are just fine. And i think most of the lux spam is over now anyway its either ekko or ekko counters like LB. and assassins are hard to play right now with it being the cinderhulk meta not only have tank cc junglers been buffed but almost all assassin got the nurf. Zed kat and akali all got nurfed recently so if you lose to them its your own fault for not going with the right picks.

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a39Jun 3, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 A Feeding Zed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PxwT7ETq,comment-id=00060000000100000000,timestamp=2015-06-02T19:04:30.009+0000)

not necessarily. others like lb ect are just fine. And i think most of the lux spam is over now anyway its either ekko or ekko counters like LB. and assassins are hard to play right now with it being the cinderhulk meta not only have tank cc junglers been buffed but almost all assassin got the nurf. Zed kat and akali all got nurfed recently so if you lose to them its your own fault for not going with the right picks.

Zed should kill Lux 1v1. I was being sarcastic because no Lux would do that. She is much more useful with her team, so why would she try to 1v1? That's my point. The guy above my last comment seems to measure evrry champ by its 1v1 ability. What an idiot.

Yxgl222HaXJun 3, 20151 votes

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Zed should kill Lux 1v1. I was being sarcastic because no Lux would do that. She is much more useful with her team, so why would she try to 1v1? That's my point. The guy above my last comment seems to measure evrry champ by its 1v1 ability. What an idiot.

They are both pretty useful it just depends on the team comps, which would remain true no matter who you pick. If you have a bursty potect-the-carrys sort of tank-burst team which is favorable in team 5s meta right now then lux would be better- but if you have a ton of squishy carrys which is more popular in yolo que then an assassin pick than can just flank behind the front line take out a carry and get back in relative safety also works well, in addition to that zed is much better for 1-3-1 strategy or 4-0-1 ect. as AD based with attack speed from bork and youmous active he can effectively split push much better than a lux can, which is not to say lux isn't good she has her own purposes too she was built as someone who sits in the back of team fights and spams low cooldown aoe abilitys, it is just all down to personal preference and play style. I find split pushing better in solo que because you cant necessarily always depend on your team but if its a team you know and work well with then team fighting champs are a sure thing... but to each their own i suppose.

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a39Jun 3, 20151 votes

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They are both pretty useful it just depends on the team comps, which would remain true no matter who you pick. If you have a bursty potect-the-carrys sort of tank-burst team which is favorable in team 5s meta right now then lux would be better- but if you have a ton of squishy carrys which is more popular in yolo que then an assassin pick than can just flank behind the front line take out a carry and get back in relative safety also works well, in addition to that zed is much better for 1-3-1 strategy or 4-0-1 ect. as AD based with attack speed from bork and youmous active he can effectively split push much better than a lux can, which is not to say lux isn't good she has her own purposes too she was built as someone who sits in the back of team fights and spams low cooldown aoe abilitys, it is just all down to personal preference and play style. I find split pushing better in solo que because you cant necessarily always depend on your team but if its a team you know and work well with then team fighting champs are a sure thing... but to each their own i suppose.

Of course it depends. However, Lux would never try to 1v1 Zed. That's a fact. Even a fed Lux cannot kill Zed 1v1. At best she doesn't die and escape..

DaveclipMay 23, 20152 votes

lux is one of my main, and its true that people can dodge more easily her ult with the guardian star lux... I am a bit dissapointed with that skin. hopefully they will patch her R and put her ult less flashy at the start.

BeersteinMay 26, 20151 votes

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lux is one of my main, and its true that people can dodge more easily her ult with the guardian star lux... I am a bit dissapointed with that skin. hopefully they will patch her R and put her ult less flashy at the start.

On the other hand the spell could be balanced around that graphic and tweak for example steel guardian lux. Honestly visibly hard to see should never have an impact on the power of spells. Riot says they don't sell pay to win but that'e exactly what steel guardian lux is. You're literally buying champion power. Visuals should never have such a massive impact on gameplay balance either way.

pE4CbxDPQOMay 19, 20151 votes

All of Luxe's shit is horrible to play against on basically all skins. ~~Clear~~ skill shots...

ArkenStormMay 19, 20151 votes

Yasuo cares not for width....wait.

Vistha KaiMay 19, 20155 votes

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

kunkudunkMay 20, 20151 votes

lux says screw your windwall and kills you anyway

ArkenStormMay 21, 20151 votes

b-b-b-b-but I has PASSIVE SHEELD

kunkudunkMay 21, 20151 votes

Lol that can't handle THE LAZOR!

Carl FredricksonMay 20, 20151 votes

Also, can't see her E with Star Guardian Unicorn Lux

Penta PenguinMay 20, 20151 votes

Lux's Q hitbox is also definitely wider than the visual.

SleepyLionCubMay 20, 20151 votes

Steel legion is only strong bc if she attacks from the Bush, her spells are invisible for like .5 seconds.

Ace Access May 20, 20151 votes

the star guardian skin looks like Sakura from card captors only with different hair color

HazelViciousMay 20, 20151 votes

I pick Lux's skins I own (yes I own both the mentioned skins) for looks and a "vibe" while playing. no legit advantage. Besides, all of Lux's abilities are skillshots, which can be tough to master...to be honest I frequently misclick and lose my ult. I know that makes me bad, but Lux isn't even commonly played at this point either. So that's probably why no one is focusing on her perceived advantages. They aren't so significant she's picked above the assassin meta atm.

Dr PoroMay 20, 20152 votes

Assassin meta?

Well.. I guess you could call Sejuani an assassin, I'll give you that.

T RexHasTinyArmsMay 20, 20152 votes

Well I mean it is still a balance/qol issue when the visual for her hot on a skin doesn't reflect the hit box accurately.

It is kind of like underworld tf who even misya (or however you spell it) said was a bit op bc his cards were are smaller than their hit box so they are harder to dodge, and he was a pro player known for his tf play.

kunkudunkMay 20, 20151 votes

Agreed, I love the new skin but her ult is way more telegraphed.

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbMay 20, 20151 votes

iBlitz and alchemist ziggs are terrible for this

Cerulean LaserMay 20, 20151 votes

Instead of watching the skill itself, you have to watch Lux and listen for audio cues so you can deal with Steel Legion and Star Guardian's Q/E/R. I mostly use Sorceress and Spell Thief even though I have all of her skins except Commando and Imperial.

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Lux isn't really weak again Zed. She can stay safe pretty fine, and then proceed to be a lot more useful after laning phase.

I think he mean team-fight wise. Especially if he manages to land his Ult on her. Lux can outplay Zed, but if he touches her then she's ded.

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a39May 20, 20151 votes

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Instead of watching the skill itself, you have to watch and listen for audio cues so you can deal with Steel Legion and Star Guardian's Q/E/R. I mostly use Sorceress and Spell Thief even though I have all of her skins except Commando and Imperial.

I think he mean team-fight wise. Especially if he manages to land his Ult on her. Lux can outplay Zed, but if he touches her then she's ded.

If Lux gets caught in a teamfight, she really has to die. She is safe from a far distance. I main Lux. I have faced thousands of Zed. I rush Hourglass to get through laning phase, then outscale him in teamfights. Zed's teamfight ability is weak.

FleshCoatMay 21, 20151 votes

Hmm, I've never really had this issue with the Star Guardian skin so far. Usually it's my own stupidity for missing. Lol. I cant really comment on Steel Legion cuz i don't own, nor go up against one that often. But ill definitely be looking now.

BeersteinMay 21, 20151 votes

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Hmm, I've never really had this issue with the Star Guardian skin so far. Usually it's my own stupidity for missing. Lol. I cant really comment on Steel Legion cuz i don't own, nor go up against one that often. But ill definitely be looking now.

It's pretty ridiculous, it's cool but ultimately skins shouldn't have such a large impact on a champions power.

lDontLiftIcarryMay 20, 2015

imo lux's ult needs a complete rework on visual clarity. You still get hit by like 100-75 range of an ult you don't the entirity of until it fucking hits you. Like why is that still a thing honestly? It's such a shitty game design choice. yeah i get it.. charging my lazor hahaha so funny. But why does it have to look like that? put a huge red brick on the ground... and problem solved. Now no one complains about visual issues because you can see where you will be hit. ez pz. Just like xerath.