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win rate is not telling you that the champion is good or balanced

Napoleon3··4 votes·2,124 views

win rate is just % of win rate pick rate but that not means that the champion is good we need to test the champion skills and see if are useful and when if are good only vs players who dosnt know how to play well against you or players who know how to play against you for example quinn i main her and i have laned vs a lot of darius and trydamere i winned the most of them but the most of them where just not so smart than 1 darius and trydamere at 2 games that they just waited until 6 and get items and winned me or dive me on tower the champions actually sucks quinn roam also dosnt work if your enemys are strong and can kill you in a few seconds and if enemys dosnt push and you dont win lane the game is 100% lost yes i main quinn and i think old quinn was way better i dont care if lcs players likes more new quinn or if she got good win ratio her q is uselles blind who miss 0 hits if enemys get close to you and ultimate is uselles bot lane your 0 your cd skills are destroyed and your q dosnt critical strike because valor dosnt exist any more i hope you will understeand me that some champions needs to be tested on how good skills they got and if theyre good against good players not only got good win ratio or just got good roam the logic of players who play the game and riot too sucks and the balance thinking buffing vayne more and more for no reason fiora when they are already strong so fair balance seriously and they let other uselles adcs like sivir being uselles for ever with 0 buff is that fair? i hope to god that riot will revert some chances at all to league this game is unbalanced and you can see that from a champion who deletes you on level 2 or with only 1 item there is no counterplay tanks are so tanky asssasins are strong even after nerfs and riot buff adcs who where already strong and junglers too and suport healing item are so strong but riot cant see that the game is in the worst balance state right now and specially after fiora rework comes and marksman rework with new masteries .and finally season 8 the dumbiest season of all seasons of league of legends with 0 skills needed and if you need skills you can actually 1vs1 everyone for example fiora or 1vs9 if you are ahead 1 item and enemys got only 2 or 3 items the most games ends in 20 minits and you get oneshoted by a evelyn with only 40 ap yes that sounds so fair at all just getting countered? or getting fucked by riot balance?

8 Comments

DarukongSr3 votes

Terrible grammar and awful spelling. Couldn't get past the first three lines before wanting to gouge my eyes out.

Napoleon32 votes

also mages can delete you if they get ludens echo rabadons and void stuff rabadons void are core items every champion got no diferent build to play i got no options to build and mages can delete you so easy right now

Colton1471 votes

item 3111 item 3155 to invalidate all AP champions and Corki.

boricCentaur11 votes

I hate when people talk about a champion but only being up winrate as why the champion sucks or is op

Weedlayer1 votes

The problem is it's basically the only objective data that exists for whether the champions is OP or weak. I could say "Oh my god, Riven is so OP she has 4 dashes and a shield that scales off of AD, a stun and a knockup and an ult that not only boosts all her other abilities but also executes enemies". The problem with that is I'm just describing her kit. That description was accurate when she's been strong and when she's been weak.

Any champion can sound OP when you just describe their kit like that, and without win/play rate data we're just trading anecdotes like "I always see Rivens pop off" or "Riven sucks, you have to be super good at her just to perform averagely".

Riven was chosen randomly as I haven't seen much circle jerk about her recently as OP or UP, so I figured people thought she was reasonable right now. But you can substitute any champions there.

boricCentaur11 votes

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The problem is it's basically the only objective data that exists for whether the champions is OP or weak. I could say "Oh my god, Riven is so OP she has 4 dashes and a shield that scales off of AD, a stun and a knockup and an ult that not only boosts all her other abilities but also executes enemies". The problem with that is I'm just describing her kit. That description was accurate when she's been strong and when she's been weak.

Any champion can sound OP when you just describe their kit like that, and without win/play rate data we're just trading anecdotes like "I always see Rivens pop off" or "Riven sucks, you have to be super good at her just to perform averagely".

Riven was chosen randomly as I haven't seen much circle jerk about her recently as OP or UP, so I figured people thought she was reasonable right now. But you can substitute any champions there.

You that is a good point but there at so many ways to talk to people like lets say you want to know how good riven is and people will most likely say somthing about it and you can question them if they seem wrong or want to know more about there option, talk about her match ups and talk about how she fits into the meta where as just saying this champion is good since there winrate is high yes it can be helpful to find out the the meta but you have to look at the other stats too like ban and pick rate but that can still be wrong. I know poeple dont talk and have discussions I like described but I think if we stop using winrate as the only reason we can get closer to that point.

Madsin251 votes

Avg winrates are useless because like you said, you never know how good the person is with the champion.

So we can instead look at winrates of players that MAIN the champ and know what they are doing with them in diamond+ elo.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champions/

Click the yellow "win".

It is that easy to see the champions that need looked at, and the worst champions in the game if you are that curious.

Just by pressing this you can know 100% without a doubt that shaco/ jax needs nerfs.

Do they do anything? No.

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