196 Comments

Ahri Baka4/25/2019, 5:37:36 PM48 votes

What the f###

That was too much dmg for an assassin against a Tank that counters AD champions and has 4 Armor items with an HP item

I know you played it too well but how is that fair

Düff McWhalen4/25/2019, 6:37:43 PM37 votes

Nevermind how Rammus was in a 2v1 in his favor against a champion he direct counters, HOW CAN A FULL BUILT RAMMUS BE MELTED LIKE HE"S NOTHING?! I don't want a return to the tank meta but that is fucktarded.

Sir Saltarin4/25/2019, 7:21:19 PM33 votes

Note: Zed Fiddlesticks team has a Infernal Drake and Rammus Darius not

Rammus uses item 3800 and Q to get on top of the Kaisa, then uses W and E to taunt her with the extra dmg, the fact that Rammus doesn't has his E to fight Zed is crucial

Rammus and Darius delete Kaisa and immediatly Zed throws his R into Rammus

Zed uses E on top of him, uses W and then casts a triple Q that all hits Rammus, also casts Ignite and throws at least one aa

Fiddlesticks comes with Predator, fears Rammus and throws his E that bounces between Rammus and Darius (Rammus is hit by the item 1402 proc, Predator dmg proc, Comet and Fiddlesticks E 3 times as far as my eyes can see)

Note: Rammus uses the item 3715 at the same time that Fiddlesticks fears him and not at the start

Zed casts another E, the R mark explotes and he runs away

(For Darius he literally only hits Zed with his E and 2 aa's, not even 1 Q or his R)

Zed flashes Darius Q and runs away, casts W and with it he hits Rammus with a double Q and E

Zed uses item 3142 to buy time for the item 3814 while Rammus chases him with Q

Rammus reaches Zed but he stops the Q cc with the item 3814 and hits him with E and his passive aa to kill him

Edit: If I have said something wrong on the analysis tell me and I'll edit it, I tried to understand exactly what happened but it's easy to miss details

Genghis Khat4/25/2019, 6:30:21 PM25 votes

dude trust me. zed mains after seeing this post will tell you to buy item 3191 on rammus cause that is the only item he does poorly against ,-, cant wait for the excuses to pile in. a tank that is supposed to hard counter an ad assassin gets creamed while not being behind :) brb making popcorn for excuse reading.

Overlord Forneus4/25/2019, 7:16:23 PM24 votes

Yo dude... the Rammus wasn't one shot... and he chased Zed while below 50% health.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M4/25/2019, 6:43:58 PM19 votes

What in the actual fk. My favorite part was when rammus Q rolled at you later in the clip like he was gonna do something and just died.

Wow, what a well balanced game. Thanx RITO!

Hot LeBlanc Yuri4/25/2019, 7:43:29 PM19 votes

"But Zed is so bad now!!! :'(((("

iiRebs4/25/2019, 8:02:23 PM18 votes

The whole fight took 9-10 seconds. Zed also full stacked a cleaver on his ldr and used EoN and Flash. Rammus was kited and had none of his spells for Zed. Rammus also falls off late game when people build pen because armor is intended to be an early-mid game stat. He should not be trying to fight Zed at 35+ minutes.

Neptunia xoxo4/25/2019, 9:46:14 PM12 votes

I don't like Zed either but this video was not a good example of trying to show how dumb Zed is. With those items and cleaver fully stacked on top of Rammus having a sub par build he will 100% die to any assassin or ADC at that point.

NineTailedMystic4/26/2019, 4:24:39 AM10 votes

Armor pen is balanced guys.

MorganFreemanBot4/25/2019, 9:10:40 PM10 votes

Zed has black cleaver & Vandaams (sp), which gives him a total of 49% armor pen when cleaver is stacked. That's a decent amount of pen, even on a full tank.

Zed waits until the split second when Rammus' armor steroid falls off.

Zed's victory condition, broadly speaking, is to hit multiple shurikens. The ability fucking hurts the first target it hits, and he can do about 1k (pre mitigation) damage when he lands two. He hits rammus with **three **while Mark is active, which is nearly 2k pre mitigation damage. He also lands another two-pair later on.

Put bluntly, this fight went how it should have. It took multiple rotations from Zed to put down a full tank from full, and the main reason he was able to do so was that CC was used on the other target. Rammus could've walked away just fine, but chased into a trap.

Rammus got seriously outplayed.

I say that as someone who mains tanks & bruisers exclusively, and greatly mourns the viability of pure tanks. Shit, I mourn the current lack of tankiness in the game. But this is not really a symptom of that, this is one player immensely out playing another and absolutely earning his kill.

DalekZec4/25/2019, 6:54:39 PM9 votes

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ÈvilMorty4/25/2019, 9:42:17 PM9 votes

simple champ with limits to what he can do vs champ who has everything in one kit and no cds.

OneMustFall4/26/2019, 8:50:00 AM3 votes

What I'm skeptical about in this topic is the creator of the topic claiming he is the Zed in the video outplaying the Rammus. If this is the case, why would the dude be spamming Zed mains if he wants him nerfed?

This reeks of bullshit.

Lovelle4/26/2019, 6:26:00 PM3 votes

This has been going on for a while. It's not just Zed being OP either (even though he is ovetuned atm). Nobody can reliably mitigate damage through tank itemization alone anymore. The mitigation has to mostly come from their kit (in the form of shields, sustain or %reduction) or they get shredded/bursted in 3 seconds at most.

Was looking at one of my older games from 2014 and it's amazing how much tankier everyone was. I had over 3k health with just a Randuin's and Kindlegem (plus hp per level runes + masteries). These days it takes around 3 fully completed health items to reach 3k health.

Riot needs to allow defensive stats to actually be strong again. Simply buffing tank champions will not fix anything, only create more problems. Half the reason these mages and mobile/flashy assassins/fighters are so strong is because counterbuilding isn't half as effective as it used to be in seasons past.

Sir Prepuzius4/26/2019, 12:53:22 PM1 votes

to be fair tho, that zed is built entirely antitank.. lethality, armor pen, armor shredding..