Farming a lane/ Pushing with Eve feels like a real chore

Tryce Maxwell·Oct 14, 2017·9 votes·893 views

Out of all of the articles and posts I've seen, I do agree with many of them in terms of how her kit plays mechanically. Yes, I think it's a healthier kit, yes I think some ranges and some numbers should be buffed/shifted around, and yes I think her jungle is over all more fun and engaging for her.

But one thing that bothers me is how I constantly suffer from low CS because, even if I farm my jungle to no end, farming a lane is hard. Her Q doesn't get the reduced CD it gets of it hits a minion as opposed to monsters, now I can see where this is a necessary thing, cause you could easily gank and hit a minion for a quick Q recast on the enemy for some extra damage. But... cmon man. It's rough.

8 Comments

Shuyin178Oct 14, 20171 votes

Not every champion can be good at everything. Her expertise is not in her lane pushing power, it's her threat to the enemy team that gives the opportunity for your team to push.

Tryce MaxwellOct 14, 20171 votes

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Not every champion can be good at everything. Her expertise is not in her lane pushing power, it's her threat to the enemy team that gives the opportunity for your team to push.

The problem though stems from how behind she feels even if she tries to power farm.

Shuyin178Oct 14, 20171 votes

That's because Eve sets up lane dominance for her team, she's not a farm heavy champion. She gets a majority of her gold off of taking out the other team for your team to get ahead.

AzadetheOct 14, 20172 votes

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That's because Eve sets up lane dominance for her team, she's not a farm heavy champion. She gets a majority of her gold off of taking out the other team for your team to get ahead.

The problem with this line of thinking: Even if you go 6/0/8, if you don't have the cs, at about 12 minutes in, Eve becomes pretty useless. Her team/Other team begin to power creep into her jungle, take it over, and she can no longer get kills in team fights, because once they group, assassination is pretty much over (no way to even get in and assassinate an adc in the back line, because her damage at 12 min isn't enough to 1 chain kill, even if she can manage to get in an E (which without she DEFINITELY won't kill), and if she does go in, people are expecting it, cc the crap out of her, prevent her from ulting, and wipe her. Team fights then become 4v5, your team feeds, you never get to farm up or get more kills, and then the game is pretty much over.

She's not like Fizz who infinitely scales off killing people with tons of peel and has a strong team fight participation and can go without farm. Without farm, she simply stops being important after awhile. And, nothing about her kit can prevent the other team from taking a turret. or clearing a lane, and when your team sucks at that and chases, it cripples your team.

This could all probably be remedied if she still had AD scaling as an option, because she'd have more move speed options, more on hit optons. But without it, she's pretty much stuck to her skills, being a squishy 1 shot, and falling off early.

YukínoseOct 15, 20171 votes

6-0-8

In what universe is a 14-0 Eve without lane farm useless?

SwollwonderOct 14, 20171 votes

You should be farming jungle not waves ideally. But yes waves feel very bad to farm.

darkmatchwaldoOct 14, 20171 votes

i mean if you WANT to play a lane-splitpush style in the mid game, why not go hybrid eve with item 3074 ? item 3077 will give you a good AA clear with your Q spam. W reks cannon minions too. Run a item 3078 and with the proc from item 1414 , you'll clear waves super hard.

Karn BishopOct 15, 20171 votes

Her entire new kit is designed as a literal punishment for original eve mains, they added in anything they could possibly think of that would piss off an eve main, skill shot projectile on Q that also stops movement? yup, butcher base movement speed to slow down clears? check, W abilitiy designed to artificially slow down clears? check.

What did they think the result of this would be besides getting to your second buff and getting assaulted and killed by 90% of the jungler roster?

To make things worse even if you manage to clear or skip a camp you still cannot defend yourself in the jungle and enemy junglers are damn well figuring that out, and yes i am aware old eve was weak to invades as well but not I am a helpless kitten weak and she had fast enough clear times that often outside of a level 2 leesin you'd be pretty safe.