Please stop nerfing Shaco.

ByteOfData·Apr 5, 2017·4 votes·879 views

Now, I am a Shaco main, and I cannot understand why you guys are gutting him to a point where he's almost unplayable. I get that Shaco is an annoying champ but almost every (if not all) changes done to him since the assassin update has been a nerf. You guys admitted that bruiser shaco is a little too strong at the moment, but adding these changes to his Q will make bruiser Shaco ALL the is viable to play. the CD on his Q is bad enough as it is. You guys keep nerfing small aspects of his kit, then shaco players find another, slightly worse way to play him, then you guys nerf that too. The cycle just keeps continuing. Just leave the Demon Jester alone. I am actually alright with having the CD on his Q nerfed to 14 secs or whatever it was, but KEEP THE AUTO PROC. The auto proc was a core part of his kit and He will feel completely useless without it.

8 Comments

StillshadeApr 5, 20175 votes

nerf that lil shit into the ground.

WoonStruckApr 5, 20174 votes

55.5% winrate.

11.5% pickrate.

For a champion that's supposed to be difficult to use, that shows he's far from 'gutted'. He needs more nerfs.

Wet DrymanApr 5, 20171 votes

He was never supposed to be hard to play only difficult to master (low skill floor, high skill ceiling). Being difficult was always community assumption (though it was kinda true post his nerfs back in the Season 3).

WoonStruckApr 5, 20171 votes

That used to be the case because he couldn't really farm the jungle.

He can farm just fine now, ganks just about as well, and scales infinitely better due to itemization that's been added.

Now he's a 'standard' champion with the addition of all of the tricks old Shaco had.

Wet DrymanApr 5, 20174 votes

His rework was a huge buff actually: 4 seconds of really hard to counter stealth, more damage from Q if you proc backstab and you have IE, boxes scale with your HP and the more AP you have the longer their duration is, more utility due to mini boxes from R (it also counts as zoning) and execute from E. He also got some other changes (for example you can place boxes in stealth without cancelling it) etc.

Bruiser Shaco was a thing since I remember. Shaclone was playing it since Season 4, I saw people building him like that in Season 2 and 3 and he wasn't as ridiculous as his post rework incarnation (i'm gonna say that he was pretty much ok).

Honestly I don't think that he is garbage all of sudden post nerfs. In the past he was in even weaker state and people still had success with him, made him work. His nearly uncounterable stealth, early presence and utility from W and R is enough to do the thing that he was doing in the past - gaining huge early lead for his team. In the late game you can setup territory for teamfight with your boxes and disrupt them with clone and his mini boxes. His damage always, no matter what build you went came from items rather than his bases, he was known for being item dependant. I think that lethality build will be garbage now but good old crit build will do the trick.

FooDangApr 5, 20173 votes

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and I cannot understand

I agree with that statement. You do not understand.

BirdzzApr 5, 20173 votes

yeah... they gone done fucked this one all up. So.. what I'm seeing is.. you dont want assassination characters to be able to assassinate anymore. But.. Poppy being able to tank the whole team, kill the ADC and APC and get out is cool, Galio being a 7 layer shit wall is cool.. Kat 1 shotting people with one rotation is cool, Talon melting people is cool... But.. lets Nerf Shaco. Yeah i get that was strong. But hes not so damn strong you cant counter him by... Idk maybe buying Scanners and peeling for your adc.. team fight starts.. pop it your scanner.. CC. You didn't need to turn a character thats supposed to be using daggers into a bruiser. As if we didnt have enough of those ( Darius, Xin, Darius, Gnar, Darius, Trynd, Darius, and probably Darius too ).. You guys jacked this one up. Like for real.. mega disappointed. Guess ill just jump on the meta hype and just play talon.. screw having to use any forethought on where you need to place your boxes, how to rotate your CD's... I guess Im cool with playing champs where you just have to roll your face on the keyboard and win.