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Xin Zhao and Graves with the new jungle (Rage post)

SmallCheeseCake·5/27/2018, 4:20:07 AM·4 votes·2,951 views

After the recent jungle changes, these are the only champions that are allowed to exist, though I've seen a bit of pantheon jungle too WHY ARE XIN ZHAO AND GRAVES ALLOWED TO EXIST WITH THESE CHANGES? Op.gg has just rated them both as op tier, and the highest pick rates in the jungle. It's ridiculous how one sided my games are because one team happens to have one of these and the other has some other random useless jungler because they're all garbage compared to the top 2.

The jungle changes made jungler interaction more important, and these two champions you 100% do not want to interact with in the jungle unless you're something like Udyr. What I've been seeing is if you're against XIn Zhao/Graves and you're not one of them, you need to give up scuttles and watch as they inevitably become more powerful, or contest it and get killed. And their ganking power is quite strong too (I'm looking at you Xin Zhao).

Please change the jungle/revert it or shift the strength of these champions around different points of the game.

14 Comments

SmallCheeseCake5/27/2018, 4:31:04 AM1 votes

I'd also like a riot response if possible about what they're gonna do next :/ I've been bitching more about Xin Zhao and Graves than hashinshin does about his jungler.

Astorine5/27/2018, 9:46:47 AM1 votes

Xin Zhao: sees enemy jg getting crab Xin: (banging and ape noises) Announcer: 1st blood

Vlada Cut5/27/2018, 11:10:49 AM1 votes

Doesn't Xin scale badly later on? And is there really no other counter in jg besides Udyr?

Daddy Ants5/27/2018, 6:15:28 PM1 votes

Graves Base AD lowered from 69 to 66 Collateral Damage (R) cooldown increased from 110/85/60 to 120/90/60

Xin Zhao AD per level lowered from 3.3 to 3 Audacious Charge (E) slow lowered from 50% to 30%

That AD per level change is an absolute joke.

0.3 x 18 = 5.4

Half a long sword worth of AD lost over the entire game.

Big wow.

Wild Geese5/27/2018, 7:20:49 PM1 votes

Oops, Xin is getting hail of blades next patch.

... Time to just wait for season 9 guys.