Suggested change to Banshee's Veil's build path.

InstaPoppy·8/2/2017, 6:01:43 PM·44 votes·1,269 views

Right now Banshee's Veil builds out of Null-Magic Mantle which gives 25 magic resist, but when you upgrade the item it suddenly gives 60. And often when you have a hard matchup you don't want to finish your defensive item right away, you just sit on the component and finish something else like your mana items first.

So i was wondering if they build path could be changed so Banshee's Veil builds out of a Negatron Cloak. This would make it better to have without finishing it for a difficult match up early. And it woulden't be as big of a jump from stats for finishing considering you usually finish the item for the great passive anyways. This would change the cost to finish the item from 800 to 530 but the old banshee also had a combine cost of 530.

Just to make it clear, i don't want the items stats to be buffed, i just would like the buildpath to be a litle more convenient which could potentially be a buff.

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18 Comments

Dog of Pavlov8/2/2017, 7:01:36 PM25 votes

Riot has stated before that they want this to give a low amount of MR until the final item to make it more of a trade-off. I wish they would make it more consistent so that AD mid laners couldn't get a hexdrinker and sit on that, because it's way more powerful than just a Negatron Cloak.

IMO I think they should keep it at a Negatron Cloak, but also make hexdrinker cheaper/less powerful to even the playing fields against AP laners that require you to build MR.

Kídá8/2/2017, 6:58:04 PM5 votes

I wish riot would do this. 25 MR is just not enough to hold on to.

BLACK REALM GOD8/3/2017, 2:33:31 AM5 votes

lets build it out of quicksilver sash.

Sohleks8/3/2017, 2:31:35 AM3 votes

It's annoying but they don't because it'd be too strong and beneficial to build negatron every game ap vs. ap.

It's a truly hack way to balance a too strong item though.

Shablagoo8/3/2017, 2:19:00 AM1 votes

I think just negatron cloack and codex is good, the think I find with ap itemization is the items added to it make it annoying to build like death cap why not just two items then the up the price of the recipe.

SanKakU8/3/2017, 1:34:39 PM1 votes

I hate new Banshee's Veil. I pretty much never buy the damn thing anymore but I loved the old one. The bad build path is a great reason not to buy it, but another is that it grants no health and no armor.

It kind of reminds me of IBG in that a lot of a defensive stat seems to come out of nowhere when you complete the item...but IBG is an awesome item that is totally worth the purchase many times on pretty much the entire champion roster. Can't argue the same for Veil.

item 3025 > item 3102

Catastrop8/3/2017, 8:35:17 PM1 votes

Why the hell did this thread become a Hexdrinker shitfest? This is about ap champions landing against other ap champions, who cares about Hexdrinker right now.

That aside, I'd definitely like to see this happen. 15 Mr isn't really doing much when both sides have 10+ pen already in their builds from the start, effectively making you play with base Mr until you finish Veil or get enough levels.