melee champions are a joke. melee range is a bad joke.

stratagemma2000··3 votes·1,437 views

laning against a viktor as cho gath and having a 40 minions behind viktor (40 minions. 40. let me spell it again for you: F O U R T Y) outtrading the cho gath in melee range and immediately running away is an absolute, utter joke.

having a kai'sa one and an half item behind the cho gath missposition, get engaged on with glory while still having a fully unstacked rageblade, yet winning the duel in melee range is absurd.

having a teemo overextend in lane against singed on lvl5 equal farm and singed coming out of the bush, fling skyauto q him and get killed by a non kiting, full melee range teemo is completely absurd.

solokilling a gnar or a teemo in lane as singed and being ahead in cs just to be outdueled and straight up killed the moment frozen mallet gets completed is way too irritating and stupid. rylai has nowhere the same slowing effectiveness and just 700 hps means they can chase singed forever, while still having the damage to win, appalling.

having a jhin overextended in a sidelane against a singed with glory, sunfire, rylais and lyandris, having the singed engage on him with glory and still get kited to death despite having closed the gap and all the subsequent slows feels like balance team has been on vacation for way too long.

i've seen a couple of times a lucian killing kha zix in full melee range (medium to high plat elo, because i have high mmr. lol.)

the leeway ranged champions have is currently gargantuan. ranged kiting is way too powerful in this game right now, and yet it doesnt even feel necessary when ranged champions are winning melee duels anyway, and while being behind, too. uhm... hello?

laning against ranged opponents is garbage as a melee toplaner and everybody with minimal honesty recognizes that. in teamfights ranged champions are the one outputting the highest amount of damage, they are the ones ending the game with the pretty kdas, and now they have sidelane domination, too? can i outscale at least in some respects the gnar or viktor or lucian that gets picked toplane to deny me any fun during the laning phase? because i cannot really understand why karma or viktor are allowed to tank more than a normal melee tank while outdueling anyone without kiting AND providing absurd ranged cc in teamfights without even having to sacrifice part of their health bars to land it, something a nautilus or singed is required to do.

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PlsBuffMyMain1 votes

The boards tell me melees like Jax, Irelia and Akali are broken. [sg-lux-2]

stratagemma20001 votes

irelia and akali are overrated, jax is one of the few good melee champions but still gets kited and destroyed by mages.

jocomotion1 votes

Waitwaitwait. Wait. Are you complaining Cho’gath, one of the purposeful, slowest champions in the game should be able to catch champions with range? That’s supposed to be one of his big weaknesses.

If you want to counter a ranged champ pick someone who abused them like Kled or Jax Irelia. Not one of the slowest tanks in the game.

stratagemma20001 votes

no gold 2 support guy im telling you that he shouldnt lose 1v1 if they dont kite at all and stay in melee range for the whole trade. which is frankly absurd.

also im telling you that singed shouldnt lose 1v1 to teemo in melee range if you do your combo correctly.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Waitwaitwait. Wait. Are you complaining Cho’gath, one of the purposeful, slowest champions in the game should be able to catch champions with range? That’s supposed to be one of his big weaknesses.

no, hes complaining that the cho did catch the ranged champion, and the ranged champion still won.

JackMcSnipeyz1 votes

Late game you literally 1 shot kai'sa with E+R in melee range

stratagemma20001 votes

i was one item and an half ahead of the kai sa and i did hit w, q, e and stoneplate r. she had unstacked rageblade in the beginning of the trade.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Late game you literally 1 shot kai'sa with E+R in melee range

lategame kaisa presses r and gets to disengage and shielded for 3 times her health bar though, before she gets into feast range.

JackMcSnipeyz1 votes

Good thing he has insta cast AoE silence then

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