Why can people still Troll in Champ select and not get punished for it...

Duroxxigar·5/8/2015, 3:01:33 AM·173 votes·28,723 views

Got into lobby. First player picks Bard. 4th player says "fine, I can troll too". Instalocks Poppy with Clairvoyance and Clense. He is supposed to be our jungle. So I end up having to dodge. So now I lose 3 LP and can't play for 5 minutes. While he gets to go to another game scotch free.

5 years Riot...5 fucking years and you still can't do shit.

"Oh but it'll be abused!" Fuck that excuse. I get abused for having to put up with it. You being terrified of a POSSIBILITY is ridiculous. You choose to side with the troll over siding with the innocent player. And you wonder why people are toxic...starts from the top Riot (psst, that's you).

193 Comments

C9 Tekniqz5/8/2015, 3:04:08 AM48 votes

I think they should put a voting system in the pick and ban phase. If someone is being a troll then your team can vote on the person selected and if 3 of 4 vote with you it replaces the player or restarts the que. Because honestly I hate this too.

RiotRiotZulu5/9/2015, 12:36:31 AM15 votes

There's a bunch of ideas in this thread we've considered and a bunch we've dismissed because we're certain they'd cause either different or even worse negative behaviors. We are working on resolving a lot of the conflicts you experience in champ select, similar to how we resolve conflicts in teambuilder. For example being able to declare your intent for what role or champion you want to play while still being able to change around your pick to suit your eventual team comp could be very helpful. Also see here.

SlytherMinn5/8/2015, 3:06:10 AM12 votes

Riot doesn't care about the average player. If you're not a pro or champion series player, "shut up and give me your money" is all Riot cares about.

Kazaashi5/8/2015, 4:33:14 PM6 votes

I think the best system would be the ability to send reports in Team Select and let Riot sort it out. Anything else is too likely to be abused.

Duroxxigar5/8/2015, 4:17:34 AM4 votes

This thread isn't about AFKs. It's about Trolls in champ select.

iainB855/8/2015, 8:31:21 PM4 votes

100% agree with OP.

Most common retort: "But muh off-meta picks"

It's ENTIRELY possible that 4 people could gang up on someone for picking a wonky pick that they didn't like.

Is it LIKELY that all four people will be asshats and vote yes to someone who is going to try, but didn't pick the strongest meta champ? I'm willing to wager no.

Therefore, I truly believe that a vote kick system would do FAR more good than harm.

Just because it is POSSIBLE that someone could get wrongfully kicked, the being kick penalty should be light -- a 5 minute queue penalty and no loss of LP. If someone is repeatedly getting kicked, Riot can monitor that and take action -- as they are clearly doing something more wrong than trying to play an off-meta champion.

That compromise to me is a hell of a lot better than the current "troll wins no matter what" scenario we have going on today (i.e. he forces the dodge, or forces people to play a minimum of 20 minutes in a game where he trolls it up as much as he wants to).

Tai Lopez7/16/2016, 6:36:21 PM2 votes

SealsOnSaturn9/5/2015, 6:13:28 AM2 votes

I haven't been playing nearly as long as a lot of you (*about 8 months) and 3 out of 5 games seem to have a troll. It's getting to the point where i dont even want to play. I mainly run jungle and for some reason if there is an Ekko in the group chances are he is the troll. out of the last 5 games i've played with an ekko, he always seems to enjoy stealing gromp keeping me from getting my level up and being able to take blue buff. If i'm playing adc with tahm, he loves to just swallow me or the mid and run directly into the enemies then ults out. Its incredible with all the complaints people put in about this and all the reports, rarely do i notice someone getting banned for purposefully making everyone else have a bad experience in the game. I love that this game is F2P but at the same time F2P is troll central. Something needs to be done about these players as suggested. You know when there's a troll before champ select is even over. AFKs need a bigger penalty than 30 minutes or whatever it is, they need to banned for days and if its ongoing permabanned

K549/15/2015, 4:38:33 AM2 votes

BUMP THIS FUCKING POST! BUMP! BUMP! BUMP! BUMP!

Stop ignoring this shit! Do something about champ selection trolls!!!

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1951225367/50791689?tab=stats

We're red team 1st and 2nd pick take Ekko mid and Tryndamere top

After their selection, are 3rd pick says, "Tryndamere is a jungler, I'm top." Picks Nasus All 4 of us wanted to dodge but nobody wanted to take the small LP loss and wait 5 minutes (I was at 97 LP)

We get in match, Nasus goes top with Tryndamere, feeds, we have no jungler, GG.

It was basically a 4v6 match.

I've won plenty of 4v5, but you can't win a 4v6. There should have been a way to kick that guy out of queue.

Dengeden5/8/2015, 12:04:51 PM1 votes

You being terrified of a POSSIBILITY is ridiculous.

Actually, I believe there was another game that also tried to do something about this and it was ineffective as all get out. But you know what? Even if I'm wrong about that, I wouldn't need it to show you why this problem is unsolvable. At least, in terms of what Riot can do directly.

The simplest solution (and probably what you're asking for) would be a vote to kick a player. If they get kicked often enough, they're suspended or banned. Great! Now most Bard players will get banned, joy is me! I do enjoy not being able to play my pocket picks. All sarcasm aside, do you really think trolls are going to open their mouths in champ select if this is implemented? "I troll" is just going to move to Summoner's Rift.

A mercy vote wouldn't exactly work either, it would inadvertently lead to 4 people accusing the least successful of trolling. It would breed toxicity and probably screw the LP system while we're at it.

And you wonder why people are toxic.

When I've got the real reason right in front of me, your "I know better than everyone else" attitude is a major contributor to toxicity.

branasce5/8/2015, 11:26:53 PM1 votes

well, then don't dodge. The only reason these "trolls" do these things is to provoke someone to dodge.In this case, it happened to be you. If ya dodge then of course theyre gonna get off without even a slap on the wrists. you took the bullet for him

Killstrado5/9/2015, 1:09:34 PM1 votes

Hey I got a good idea, lets punish people for not playing they way I want them too. They shouldn't be allowed to play to their liking.

I bet before YOU made the choice to dodge and was the only one to lose LP because of YOUR decision, you raged all over your teammates