Experimental AD build

iBard XD·May 26, 2016·4 votes·1,007 views

BOTRK Black Cleaver Runaan's Hurricane Infinity Edge Berserker's Greaves Static Shiv

I was playing Ashe adc against a tanky team. I would like to hear people's criticism

14 Comments

Wolfram OxfordMay 26, 20163 votes

To be honest I don't like building on-hits on Ashe. Instead of BoRK you should go for more BT, it will increase your damage more and your survivability. My usual build is something like;

item 3085 item 3031 item 3072 item 3006 item 3139 item 3036

AramsAreBestMay 26, 20161 votes

Does botrk work with her q

Wolfram OxfordMay 26, 20161 votes

To my knowledge it works with on-hits. I may be wrong, but why I assume it does is because whenever I've used Runaan's it has release multiple bolts when I pair it with Q's activation.

FurretHasAGlockMay 26, 20161 votes

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Does botrk work with her q

No. However, she has great synergy with both the active, and the passive. Most of her DPS is from autos, her kit slows, is based on CC, which BOTRK adds even more, It gives her a boost in speed, and it gives attack speed. What else could an Ashe want? EDIT! It still procs the passive, but not 5 times or multiple

LankPantsMay 27, 20161 votes

It kinda works with Ruunan's and Q in combination. It will only ever proc once per person regardless of how many times she hits but with Ruunan's you will proc BotRK once on everyone you hit.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 26, 20161 votes

there is no reason to build on hit instead of full crit. black cleaver is better than last whisper. but that only after you stack it. even on tanks. however. stacking it is the problem. I think a regular ashe build is better.

Mecha MaIphiteMay 26, 20161 votes

Black cleaver isn't always better than last whisper (referring to items that build out of it). Mortal reminder helps against teams with champs like Mundo or Swain, and LDR just helps against teams with a lot of tanks/bruisers.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 26, 20161 votes

sure situationally. i just meant in the armor pen area. since 30% of total armor is better than 45% bonus armor unless your against a malphite or a rammus that has 350 armor or something crazy like that

Lady HammerlockMay 27, 20161 votes

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there is no reason to build on hit instead of full crit. black cleaver is better than last whisper. but that only after you stack it. even on tanks. however. stacking it is the problem. I think a regular ashe build is better.

even without any armour pen Ashe still melts everybody

LankPantsMay 27, 20161 votes

VS tank's it is stronger than LW, but LW is a component that costs a fraction of what BC does. When you compare BC to Lord Doms it's generally a little worse unless you're a caster who really likes the 20% CDR.

AlutrosityMay 26, 20161 votes

If you're building that much AD then you need statik shiv instead of runaans huricane. Before someone says "but slow everyone", the critical strikes are reduced on the additional targets as is the raw damage. The new statik shiv is much more reliable for burst and crits more consistently, so I don't understand this whole obsession with phantom dancer and the damage reduction it gives. If you want damage reduction go death's dance, and the mercurial scimitar should not be in there unless you are getting cc'd to hell. Ashe's reliable range and constant slows should act as a deterrent for tanks getting too close to her, so it's better to either build statik shiv and phantom dancer together so you crit more often, gain more movement speed which enables you to kite more efficiently, or get GA. Botrk is ONLY good against tanks and on certain adc's, and even then it's rarely a great buy now as Lord Dominik's regard fulfills the same purpose so that you don't HAVE to get botrk and deal reduced damage. It's true that you still won't cut them down as quickly, but as the tank reaches half hp, botrk becomes less effective because it deals damaged based on their current hp and not their max hp.

MargaretThatcherMay 27, 20161 votes

just replace last whisper in a normal build for black cleaver. As simple as that. I could do the math and etc but in tl;dr ashe Q needs AD atk speed and crit,not just flat AD. Black cleaver is picked over last whisper due to the easy aoe stacking,and its base armor.This means that you can easily kill any squishy in 2-3 basics and the last whisper build would need 3-4 (with Q active) Also, with only hurricane+IE as crit item you outdmg any adc in damage over time with your Q active.

Lady HammerlockMay 27, 20161 votes

I usually run item 3085 item 3031 item 3006 item 3139 item 3072 then 2 options normally I prefer getting item 3087 but sometimes I go item 3153 if you want 50+% lifesteal