Kindred's 20 minute Baron Mark

øHaruø·May 28, 2017·6 votes·576 views

That seems pretty rough, especially since Kindred could potentially not get any marks against certain junglers. And a 20 minute Baron while possible, may not always happen.

11 Comments

The Yetii RiderMay 28, 20172 votes

Yes. If you shut Kindred down, you should be rewarded for it. If Kindred is outplayed and fails to counterjungle or assassinate in the early game, she should be completely useless.

øHaruøMay 28, 20178 votes

It's fine if another player makes her useless but when the game itself/her kit makes her useless that's unfair. I was the Yi and I was actively stealing her marks, fair and fine enough, I did that, I myself made her unable to get stacks. But when the game comes around and on 20-minute mark makes Baron Kindred's mark, that's just wrong.

The Yetii RiderMay 28, 20171 votes

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It's fine if another player makes her useless but when the game itself/her kit makes her useless that's unfair. I was the Yi and I was actively stealing her marks, fair and fine enough, I did that, I myself made her unable to get stacks. But when the game comes around and on 20-minute mark makes Baron Kindred's mark, that's just wrong.

It's just one mark though. At 20 minutes Kindred shouldn't be getting power from poaching the enemy jungle anyway, she should be focused on fighting enemy champions.

øHaruøMay 28, 20171 votes

That answer is acceptable and fair enough.

Asayake 5150glowMay 28, 20171 votes

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It's just one mark though. At 20 minutes Kindred shouldn't be getting power from poaching the enemy jungle anyway, she should be focused on fighting enemy champions.

But at 20 minutes it gets even riskier to run around in the enemy jungle.

Maybe it could mark like multiple camps? Like wolves + gromp, and then later on starts marking the entire top half of the jungle?

The Yetii RiderMay 28, 20171 votes

No!

At 20 minutes.

You should be fighting.

With your team.

Riot does not want to encourage power farming in the jungle. On either side of the jungle. They are actively discouraging it.

If you want stacks as Kindred at 20 minutes, kill an enemy champion or take baron, which will mean fighting the enemy team. Stop PVEing at 20 minutes.

Asayake 5150glowMay 28, 20171 votes

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No!

At 20 minutes.

You should be fighting.

With your team.

Riot does not want to encourage power farming in the jungle. On either side of the jungle. They are actively discouraging it.

If you want stacks as Kindred at 20 minutes, kill an enemy champion or take baron, which will mean fighting the enemy team. Stop PVEing at 20 minutes.

The jungle is a very good source of income that should never be forgotten about... that's why you always clear the nearby jungle after you take a tower or something.

Plus being on the enemies side of the jungle will force fights.

The Yetii RiderMay 28, 20171 votes

The income itself is probably enough incentive at that point.