Kayn still needs something...

NinagTjUr·Aug 15, 2017·3 votes·590 views

I think still needs something, because till now his win rate is still below 50%, and I am not talking about new players I am talking about people with 200+ games on him on Platinum or above.

http://champion.gg/champion/Kayn/Jungle?league=platplus

Even when I play him I feel I should be stronger already but I am not that strong.

For me one of the problems are the mastery's most of the time i have to guess what form ill go this game and thus cant choose between Thunder lords and Fervor.

I don't think he needs a damage buff but maybe a quality of life buff like more armor early or something I dunno know ? Open to suggestions though :O

Good luck at summoners rift [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

11 Comments

Fear the KaynAug 15, 20173 votes

Ironically, he has the 'Aatrox problem'. Neither bruiser Kayn or assassin Kayn does their jobs better than other champions. Zed or Talon are both far superior assassins, and Jax or Riven are better bruisers. He doesn't really have a niche to fall into IMO.

JusticePauldronsAug 15, 20172 votes

I think he is a garbage fire of a champion honestly. Maybe if his Q didn't have the stupid delay at the end he would be more fun to play, but honestly with how he work currently the only time I have seen him be successful is when he builds nearly full tank.

NinagTjUrAug 15, 20171 votes

I agree on the delay thing might be even better if they divide the skill up into two parts, that would be a new mind opening idea for new plays.

MLDzXnRRRAug 15, 20171 votes

Shadow Assasin is garbage. It's playable only when you get fed and falls off super hard compared to the darkin. His % isn't great, because many players probably try to win as SA.

NinagTjUrAug 15, 20171 votes

yeah shadow assassin was good when Death fire touch made him scale it faster but now why would u need an assassin who has badish not worst escapes.

InfernapeAug 15, 20171 votes

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Shadow Assasin is garbage. It's playable only when you get fed and falls off super hard compared to the darkin. His % isn't great, because many players probably try to win as SA.

Rhaast will always be better than SA. While Rhaast doesn't deal damage as fast as SA, Rhaast is more durable, brings hard CC while still dealing damage.

Shuyin178Aug 15, 20171 votes

Not every champion needs a 50% winrate to be useable.

NinagTjUrAug 15, 20174 votes

But every champ has above 50% winning rate when played over 200 games... im not saying make him above 50 im saying make him above 50% for people with expert hand's.

Rockem SockmAug 15, 20171 votes

Kayn is fine and will always be a niche pick.

He doesn't fullfil his role as versatile because you have to go into the game with the right runes/mysteries/first item buys to match the form.

NinagTjUrAug 15, 20172 votes

He doesn't fullfil his role as versatile because you have to go into the game with the right runes/mysteries/first item buys to match the form.

That's what im saying he needs a quality of life change so that doesnt happen no need for randomity every game even the bar IN GAME doesn't tell you what form you will until your are already there so your going 10-15 minutes into the game not sure about if your going the right way.

And I didnt say he wasn't fine I just said >I don't think he needs a damage buff but maybe a quality of life buff like more armor early or something I dunno know ? Open to suggestions though :O

so no Increase in numbers but some quality changes...