J4 the tank that cant tank.

AmericanSuave ·12/3/2016, 8:19:52 PM·2 votes·542 views

Going to keep it short and sweet. Jarvans W is the weakest thing about him. It doesnt scale with Ad or Ap. If his W gave his team mates a shield that would be better in my opinion. He can go tank dont get me wrong but he lacks power. Why play when i can be . Naut is just a better tank and still does massive damage. Though I love Jarvans E and if his W gave a shield to his alias that would make him a great tank/ fighter. His W needs some love for sure just to help him be more tanky. What you guys think?

8 Comments

Jax Cramer12/3/2016, 8:21:04 PM1 votes

Build him dmg like a true man would.

BeatzBoyFTW12/3/2016, 8:21:32 PM1 votes

I'd rather his W scale with HP, so that going AD build isn't the only viable option for him. There ARE still people who're willing to build Cinderhulk instead of Warriors and then go full tank builds.

Escheton12/3/2016, 8:22:25 PM1 votes

J4 is an AD assassin/diver. Noone cares about his W.

(edit: Except that guy above me)

VoidStaresBack12/3/2016, 8:22:40 PM1 votes

Because J4 is a diver and not a tank, so of course they're not going to give him great tanking steroids?

l Helios l12/3/2016, 8:23:27 PM1 votes

Jarvan is not a tank. He's a diver. Nautilus is a true tank, specifically a warden.

Ralanr12/3/2016, 8:27:56 PM1 votes

JarvanIV is weird. He's probably the only champion that I think shouldn't be a primary tank (and Riot apparently agrees because they label him as a diver). But he's also got the AoE engage of a vanguard tank, probably because he was originally designed to be a tank but after several nerfs and shifts in build paths, people found him better building full AD assassin or bruiser (Probably because he's one of the few "tanks" with AD scalings which allowed him to utilize bruiser items better than something like Alistar or Nautilus ever could) which ended up cementing him to more of a fighter.

I don't think Riot is going to try and push him back towards being a true tank. They probably see Diver as the most appropriate role for him.

WalkingInACircle12/3/2016, 8:28:57 PM1 votes

His W, I've thought it should blind people facing J4 before. But he's not a tank, he builds bruiser.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo12/3/2016, 8:29:40 PM1 votes

i agree he is NO TANK he should be consider as a bruiser ... and i agree his W is weak sauce ... there is zero reason to put any points in this ability. it needs to be changed or redesigned so its worth a fuk.