Ashe is now the lowest damage ADC in the game. Her passive bonus crit damage was removed (presumably because of warlord), while hyper carries like tryn and yasuo can use it no problem.
Going from 93 damage at level 1 to sub 70. RIP Ashe. You use to be fun to play.
AhhShucks5 votesHer passive is exactly the same damage. It just doesn't register as a crit anymore when it amps damage to prevent you from getting perma-warlord boost. The numbers are identical.
John Stud1 votesIt doesn't and you don't play Ashe. You use to do 93 damage a hit, now you are in low 70s.
Stop this meme please.
JJI7443 votesHer passive is exactly the same damage. It just doesn't register as a crit anymore when it amps damage to prevent you from getting perma-warlord boost. The numbers are identical.
^That. Her passive does the same damage, just doesn't count as a crit, so now her "crits" are a bonus slow effect. Her damage (from passive at least) was not changed.
Sohleks1 votes^That. Her passive does the same damage, just doesn't count as a crit, so now her "crits" are a bonus slow effect. Her damage (from passive at least) was not changed.
Her damage absolutely is worse without a free bonus 10% dmg from the old passive; with no crit items Ashe would crit for 1.1 her dmg on slowed enemies. I think that was there to account for the fact the first auto may not crit ever late game (tho you could get around it with her W).
Let's not forget how putting her back on the regular crit system generally makes her buildpath and powerspikes worse off as she's not getting consistent extra damage (the same amount of dmg consistently > unreliable rng from the perspective of the Ashe player). With this and her range and utility Ashe became a very powerful laner and mid game champion for a reason.
Generally nerfing her non crit slow hurts her early game as well. All so slows can be doubled on crits. It is dubious how useful this is at all, especially at the cost of her early game. Now Ashe is pigeonhold into building crit because her utility demands it more than before (whereas before you could go BT rush on Ashe like doublelift liked to and be a hard to kill utility CC machine early game; not that you would do that today anyways because Riot went overboard buffing crit and giving warlords on top of that; but still Ashe herself is impacted)
Now maybe Ashe did need a nerf though. She was one of the strongest ADC's at the end of s5.
quintinw1 votesThe issue with Ashe, isnt her damage. I am a MR5 Ashe player (because that matters), and her damage hasnt changed (except from items and maybe masteries, to a very small extent).
They just made her clunky, not being able to activate q early for the AS and 20% slow (the slow doesnt exist anymore, as it has been baked into W counting as a crit for x2 your current passive slow)
Its just...weird.
sk0 buffs1 votesYou can now flurry on any structure. Ashe is now a tower taking hypercarry with no cd on her steroid. (^_^)