Hecarim being number one jungler:

CameronM94·Nov 18, 2016·1 votes·1,251 views

I just want to address Hecarim having the highest win rate on OP.GG in the jungle.

I'm a silver player so the rankings on OP.GG will not be affected by my win rates personally but I just want to put it out there that Hecarims win rates being the highest was not the case before the new jungle and the new mastery 'Courage of the Colossus'

That being said all of the following champs with high win rates are all heavy CC junglers and would just like to suggest that if there are to be nerfs/changes that are needed then maybe they should be aimed at the mastery.

I will not hide that Hecarim is a strong jungler but I want riot to consider the strength of mastery before giving Hecarim un-necessary nerfs

13 Comments

bad arcade kittyNov 18, 20161 votes

thank colossus mastery

Chamuel85Nov 18, 20161 votes

You didn't list the champions that have the heavy CC. Which ones did you have in mind?

ValyrianBladeNov 18, 20161 votes

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You didn't list the champions that have the heavy CC. Which ones did you have in mind?

Top 7 win rate junglers: Hecarim, Ivern, Skarner, Vi, Nunu, Zac, Sejuani

Top 6 win rate top laners: Nautilus, Swain, Singed, Malphite, Sion, Rammus

With the exception of Swain they all use CotC I believe. Maybe Singed is an exception too.

bad arcade kittyNov 18, 20161 votes

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Top 7 win rate junglers: Hecarim, Ivern, Skarner, Vi, Nunu, Zac, Sejuani

Top 6 win rate top laners: Nautilus, Swain, Singed, Malphite, Sion, Rammus

With the exception of Swain they all use CotC I believe. Maybe Singed is an exception too.

singed has a hard cc

ValyrianBladeNov 18, 20161 votes

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singed has a hard cc

I say that Singed is maybe an exception because his most commonly taken keystone is still grasp for some reason. CotC is the best keystone on him though (and highest win rate).

CameronM94Nov 18, 20161 votes

Sorry about that but yes as Chamuel has posted, they all have a lot of CC

ValyrianBladeNov 18, 20161 votes

Yes, that keystone is broken OP. Anyone with hard CC is taking it every game it seems.

CameronM94Nov 18, 20161 votes

Yeah, I think maybe if the numbers were reduced for the more champs around you but I just want to point out that it's the mastery and not exclusively Hecarim

RalanrNov 18, 20161 votes

Reducing the numbers based on how many champions are around you would defeat its purpose of being a teamfight engage mastery and turn it into a dueling mastery.

Just reduce the scaling to 5% instead of 7% or make it scale off of bonus HP.

CameronM94Nov 18, 20161 votes

You're right, I can see them taking that route. I think it would be the right way to go about it

WeatheredNov 18, 20161 votes

Either you read the information wrong, or it changed in the last 11 minutes. He is fourth for both playrate and winrate, not first.

https://i.gyazo.com/13c5df017fe78d7c56805615e1cfcd34.png

CameronM94Nov 18, 20161 votes

That's weird, I would have guessed that the win rates had changed but I'm still seeing Heca as #1 on op.gg, I just want to say that I'm EU west. I'm not sure how to upload pictures, if you tell me how I'll upload what I'm seeing. Although I'm guessing you've used a third party website to do it.

I'm not sure why but like I said I'm still seeing Hecarim as number 1 win rate and number 3 pick rate, I can only assume it's regionally different

WeatheredNov 18, 20161 votes

Its most likely regionally different, I'm on NA. I used Gyazo to take the picture.