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Double Jungle in new meta?

Potato KehPeh·12/23/2015, 4:49:10 PM·4 votes·1,670 views

So I just posted a post about a quadruple jungle game that I played last night and it's got me thinking that double jungle seems to be decent this meta mostly for low-moderate elo's. My experience so far with this meta is the fact that most players from bronze V - Plat V tend not to ward Rift Herald and it's mostly ignored until near 20 minutes. Players around this elo also tend not to do well against a surprise fight in their jungle after the laning phases have started, and after my last game last night as a double jungle, I feel like it can be quite powerful as long as you can safely take early drags, rift herald, and force a 3 vs 1 top and mid lane early game. Either that or 3 vs 2 bot, then pick up more objectives while invading the enemy jungle. I haven't done enough testing with it, but so far including the quad jungle game, I've won all 3 no losses and two of the games being surrenders. I don't think this will work well in the higher elo since they have better ward coverage and a better understanding of map awareness. Give me your input.

P.S: Evelynn and Kha'zix double jungle + roaming around together in the enemy jungle is quite broken. Eve scouts first, and kha comes in to help sweep up the kill.

26 Comments

Camba4ever12/23/2015, 5:58:04 PM3 votes

Love the idea, and frankly I love any idea or concept that "breaks" the Meta, and I hate the idea of a "Meta" in general... It stifles creativity. I was in a game with a double jungle the other day and was almost tilted from champ select because of it... but I dealt with it (and went to my solo lane as supp nonetheless and just farmed under tower basically, lol) But it worked, it threw the enemy team off constantly and we won the game... So duo jungle? Go for it. NO jungle and duo Top or duo Mid? I guarantee you that will throw ppl off and they will be forced to adapt and "play your game" as they say.

Creativity gives you an edge... this is literally the difference between bot matches and pvp matches... Bots lack creativity, adaptation, and innovation. Human players are so much more devious and strategic. The perfect example of this is lane swapping in high elo / LCS games. (and I forget who it was that started it... like idk if it was the Koreans or what?) The opposing teams literally couldn't believe what was happening and had thought they were trolling or somehow being cocky and showboating. It was something completely new that pro teams were forced to adapt to and was incredibly outside the original "Meta" of lane assignments. And now it is a mainstream and expected basic strategy constantly discussed on the analyst desk both pre and post game in the LCS.

So forget this "Meta" concept and think outside the box!

P.S. Please dont misunderstand me here... going AD off-tank Annie is NOT what I'm talking about here, so yea... just don't, lol. Ya'll know what I mean, talking strategy and deception in warfare here, not buying the wrong items based on their strengths, AD vs AP etc...

MLDzXnRRR12/23/2015, 4:58:44 PM2 votes

Good luck with this strategy vs any tanky support - your ADC will be permazoned and dived under tower. After they wreck bot, they will roam and take mid. Then you will have several underfarmed champions - your bot and the 2 junglers. I can see this working only if you all pick some early game champions and finish the game around 15-20 minutes.

Erockandroll12/23/2015, 4:59:57 PM2 votes

I really can't see that flying. considering that bonus ex from the Jungle items are on kill and not take down. Unless you give the two Junglers separate camps. But that wouldn't make them any stronger.

Right now, your best bet is if your want something similar to Double Jungling, Try using a roam heavy support. They can give just as much gank assist as a second Jungler, without the need for items or even levels.

AyRe CoNteMpT12/23/2015, 4:51:44 PM2 votes

how well do marksmen do in a 1vs2 lane in that elo?

cmd0112/23/2015, 6:03:14 PM2 votes

Perhaps you could have two roaming support junglers top and bot. Could lead to snowballing early which we all know is great in s6.

EndlessSorcerer12/23/2015, 5:12:09 PM2 votes

Some day I want to try Nunu + Shaco double jungle.

It seems like you could make the lives of the enemy laners and jungle horrible and they wouldn't necessarily lose out from not having as many jungle camps to farm.

BluePolarizer12/23/2015, 9:20:53 PM1 votes

Not sure why you talk about plat 5's when you are gold 5 0 LP. I'm above plat 5 so I don't have any personal stake in the matter, I just found it funny.