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Fizz immune to azir ult.

JordaX··2 votes·2,854 views

Why is he the only one who can troll pole over azirs ult? like why does fizz even exist? I understand Azir counters him hard but its still annoying as fuck.

Edit:The only champ IVE experinced being immune to his ult. Like if rengar cant jump over it... why can fizz? shit is stupid.

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HexTechBomber2 votes

Technically he shouldn't be able to, wondering if it's a bug interaction issue not detecting it correctly.

FyshinaTux1 votes

I imagine that Vladimir and Elise could do this as well given proper timing (which would theoretically be easier for them, since Fizz is only invulnerable for .75 seconds, and they get multiple seconds.)

FiendOfOne1 votes

Elise Maokai Leblanc Shaco Lissandra Ezreal Fiora Zed Hecarim Kassadin Katarina MasterYi Talon Warwick Yasuo Vladimir Morgana Sivir Nocturne

item 3102 item 3157

Wow, Fizz is the only one?

FyshinaTux1 votes

Not sure about LeBlanc, Shaco's is a blink (wall only stops dashes), Lissandra's is a blink, Ezreal blink, (not sure bout Fiora), Zed blink, (not sure bout hec), Kassadin blink, Katarina blink, Master Yi blink, Talon blink, WW blink, Yasuo not sure (though he's so overloaded in his kit that the game probably breaks or SOMETHING...), Vlad is untargetable while pooled, Morg Black Shield stops CC so I guess his ult is coded as CC, Sivir same as morg, Noct same as morg, Banshees same as morg, Zhonya's untargetable.

JordaX1 votes

LB cant. neither can vlad. Morg cant go over the wall. or sivir and how does zhonyas and bv get you over the wall? Oh wait... they dont.

HexTechBomber1 votes

I think it's a matter of debating Azir's wall interaction among spell immunity from Sivir, Nocturne , Morgana and invulnerable via item 3157's invulnerable/untargetable active.

FiendOfOne1 votes

This. They make you immune to the pushback effect.

FiendOfOne1 votes

See my other reply, and Vlad's pool will ignore the initial effect of the wall.

HexTechBomber2 votes

item 3157 has nothing to do with trying to pass through Azir's wall. But testing it's effect of hitting Zhyona then Azir using R, effect?

item 3102 same as item 3157, but does it ignore the initial push?

Azir's R is a wall but interacts differently compared to

Elise can technically because she's not attempting to jump Azir's wall. Need testing. Maokai cannot pass through Azir's. Need testing. Leblanc cannot pass through Azir's wall, it's a dash not a blink, the 2nd activation is a blink however. Shaco can because his invis is technically a blink ability. Lissandra not tested but because she's not technically dashing through the wall but blinking behind it by reactivating E again. Ezreal technically a blink, can pass over it. Fiora while her R removes her from the map/targetability because she's dashing around dealing damage, her Q however will not. Zed while his R actually teleports him to within melee range of his target, I'm not sure or tested the W shadow clone if the wall stops it or not. Hecarim while he's not an unstoppable force, I do believe he's actually stopped by Azir's wall. E doesn't even go over it. Kassadin yes he does blink over the wall, it's a blink. Katarina yes her E is indeed a blink, you got that one right. MasterYi I'm not sold on this one because he does dash around yet he's not technically there....like Fiora. Talon yes he does get over it, E is a blink. Warwick I'm gonna say yes, since he teleports to his targets location and it's pretty much a blink. Yasuo though his E dash does not, his R does because he teleports to the location of the knocked up target(s). Vladimir no though he may be untargetable he's still restricted to confines of interacting to it like other walls, cannot pass under them. Also note though he's untargetable he still takes any form of ticking damage, and I wanna say same with an AoE of some sort. Needs testing. Morgana not totally sure how it interacts with shields that prevent any kind of CC. Needs testing Sivir see Morgana Nocturne like Morgana for his spell shield though I am not sure how his R would interact because he technically rushes at them and does go over walls, Azir's wall interacts differently. Need testing.

Your most guarenteed way across Azir's wall is this spell: summoner 4. 100% of the time less you manage to mess up a flash. Oops! :P

Other champions I'm curious about, interacting with Azir's wall.

Red/Rioter to fill in or anyone who's tested Blitzcrank effect of pulling enemy through allied Azir's wall? Kalista the use of her R with Azir's wall? RekSai using E I imagine gets under the wall, does it? What bout R and colliding with the wall? How does that work?

FiendOfOne1 votes

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item 3157 has nothing to do with trying to pass through Azir's wall. But testing it's effect of hitting Zhyona then Azir using R, effect?

Zhonya's will ignore the knockback effect.

item 3102 same as item 3157, but does it ignore the initial push?

Ignores the knockback, yeah.

Azir's R is a wall but interacts differently compared to

Elise can technically because she's not attempting to jump Azir's wall. Need testing.

She goes over with Rappel.

Maokai cannot pass through Azir's. Need testing.

His W makes him untargettable, so if he times it right, he can go through during the activation. Unsure if after, but I believe so.

Leblanc cannot pass through Azir's wall, it's a dash not a blink, the 2nd activation is a blink however.

mb here

Shaco can because his invis is technically a blink ability. Lissandra not tested but because she's not technically dashing through the wall but blinking behind it by reactivating E again.

Yeah, this is a blink.

Ezreal technically a blink, can pass over it. Fiora while her R removes her from the map/targetability because she's dashing around dealing damage, her Q however will not.

Yep.

Zed while his R actually teleports him to within melee range of his target, I'm not sure or tested the W shadow clone if the wall stops it or not.

Wall doesn't stop clone.

Hecarim while he's not an unstoppable force, I do believe he's actually stopped by Azir's wall. E doesn't even go over it.

His R does though.

Kassadin yes he does blink over the wall, it's a blink. Katarina yes her E is indeed a blink, you got that one right. MasterYi I'm not sold on this one because he does dash around yet he's not technically there....like Fiora.

His Q will work to both dodge the effects and to hit behind the wall.

Talon yes he does get over it, E is a blink. Warwick I'm gonna say yes, since he teleports to his targets location and it's pretty much a blink. Yasuo though his E dash does not, his R does because he teleports to the location of the knocked up target(s). Vladimir no though he may be untargetable he's still restricted to confines of interacting to it like other walls, cannot pass under them. Also note though he's untargetable he still takes any form of ticking damage, and I wanna say same with an AoE of some sort. Needs testing.

His pool avoids the wall but does not go over it.

Morgana not totally sure how it interacts with shields that prevent any kind of CC. Needs testing

Prevents.

Sivir see Morgana

Prevents.

Nocturne like Morgana for his spell shield though I am not sure how his R would interact because he technically rushes at them and does go over walls, Azir's wall interacts differently. Need testing.

Prevents and his R goes over it.

Your most guarenteed way across Azir's wall is this spell: summoner 4. 100% of the time less you manage to mess up a flash. Oops! :P

Other champions I'm curious about, interacting with Azir's wall.

Red/Rioter to fill in or anyone who's tested Blitzcrank effect of pulling enemy through allied Azir's wall? Kalista the use of her R with Azir's wall?

Dunno here.

RekSai using E I imagine gets under the wall, does it? What bout R and colliding with the wall? How does that work?

Rek'sai's ult makes her untargettable and can't be blocked by anything. (I have personally tested this one against an Azir wall). You can also smite while ulting :D

HexTechBomber2 votes

Thanks, well placed feedback to each point so as to not confuse readers.

Far as Vladimir goes I know if he pools the initial start of it, it ignores it however after he interacts with it as a normal wall.

For Hecarim I know the spirits would go over but does HE physically go over.

Awesome feedback, appreciated to help make the point to the OP.

The rest I can see and the ones I'm unsure of thanks for solidifying!

FiendOfOne1 votes

{quoted}

Thanks, well placed feedback to each point so as to not confuse readers.

Far as Vladimir goes I know if he pools the initial start of it, it ignores it however after he interacts with it as a normal wall.

Correct. The pool can and will ignore theknockback effect, but then he has to go around it. I actually believe Olaf R works the same way.

For Hecarim I know the spirits would go over but does HE physically go over.

He did when Azir first came out. Like, not a glitch, on purpose too.

Awesome feedback, appreciated to help make the point to the OP.

The rest I can see and the ones I'm unsure of thanks for solidifying!

For further reading, a quick google search came up with this: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2icovr/list_of_all_abilities_that_can_go_over_azirs/

Meep Man1 votes

Because Fizz is untargetable during his E and is therefore immune to the push of the soldiers. Anyone that is counted as unstoppable, untargetable, or can teleport can get over the wall (excluding Vladimir since his isn't a dash).

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