Tank Assassins need some attention.

simple2·Aug 22, 2016·1 votes·438 views

It is quite annoying when some tank akali goes ham on you and deletes you in some seconds and you cannot do anything versus them. A lot of assassins like Yi get abused easily and they can easily comeback in an almost lost game or even carry to victory. I think that this meta needs a little bit of attention, the only way to have fun was to start abusing champions with weird item combinations and that worked out pretty well, I am winning more games than before and it is quite easy, but I don't think that my X non-tanky opponent has fun getting deleted.

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WolfChasesAug 22, 20161 votes

Zed is an assassin who actually builds assassin and people still complain about him being broken while other assassins and melee ADCs like Akali Ekko MasterYi Yasuo can have up to 3k HP and deal as much damage as Zed yet barely anyone complains about them.

Last night I had MasterYi in the enemy team with item 1419 item 3742 item 3142 item 3153 item 3111 and item 3143 God dam....

AvienalAug 22, 20161 votes

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is an assassin who actually builds assassin and people still complain about him being broken while other assassins and melee ADCs like can have up to 3k HP and deal as much damage as yet barely anyone complains about them.

Last night I had in the enemy team with and God dam....

For one thing atleast, Zed beyond everyone crying about his kit actually is the proper and perfect mold fitting for 'Assassins', His kit lets him be tricky, when he hams on you then you better be ready to start being evasive, defensive or just plain break his tempo somehow via CC or dodging his skill shots or combo he has todo right after he uses R. But in the same regard, he can't just simply be a dominative force by his kit alone and forfeit damage and penetration in favor of building like some insane beefer'naut.

Its why i'm glad the assassin rework will be increasing the window opportunities on the affected champions so not only can the assassinated get a proper chance to fight back, but Assassins will now have to properly time the go in for kills and not expect some one press button and take a moment to stretch your fingers as it goes off and deletes the majority of the target's hp and they just need to do one more auto or other ability and the target is dead, Even to full hp tanks. Reason i would even go as far to say that Assassins should get the kits peeled back a bit that they can't be instant erasing a full hp target and need to rely more on them being at lower health to properly assassinate (since how many 'real life assassins in general' would just straight up walk up to the kill target and just plain shank them in plain sight? Instead it would be more like when the 'kill target' is asleep, injuried, disoriented in some way or just plain have a explosive dropped right in the target's lap in a cafe and your on some higher story building).

Obviously a bad example, but it should drive my point that Assassins are not fighters. Just doesnt help that LoL had to start with the silly dual role represenation which creates these bad combos that just let certain champions get to play scummie and have no "And at that very moment, they knew they fked up" moments if they aren't careful when they ham.

WolfChasesAug 22, 20161 votes

I agree on the part when you say that assassins should not be able to erase someone from the face of the rift but it's really hard to fix while letting them be assassins, at least when it comes to this game because Riot fucked up most things. I agree that an Assassin should search for disoriented, harmed or badly positioned target but how can that happen in this game? Let's take a look at assassin's primary targets, Marksmens and Mages right? Currently a lot of marksmens are over the edge after kit reworks, qol changes and recent item changes. Adcs are literally overlords with tons of armor penetration and insane amount of crit, other than that, they need a single LS item to life steal up to 30% of their HP out of a single lucky crit. Just pay attention in your games, how often will you see an ADC on HALF hp at the right moment before or after the teamfight? You can't count on "During the teamfight phase" because teamfights are to short and if you just wait to clean up that can end badly for your team. I saw a Caitlyn who chunked down Rengar's hp to 60% with a single headshot and healed up to 30+% of her HP forcing Rengar to retreat..Guy used his long CD ultimate to jump on her just to be hit by a single AA of a ranged carry and retreat even tho they were equally fed at the moment.

I agree assassins should be similar to ''Assassin's creed" assassins but it's impossible at this moment when a God damn Vayne kills you in 3 AA's out of stealth...just imagine how much damage would ADC be able to dish out while assassin is thinking when to attack or waiting for a right moment to initiate. It seems impossible. It would be a good idea if this is a season 3 or 4, but not now in S6.

Riot just gave too much power to assassin's main targets that it is simply impossible to reduce their burst or momentum and keep them viable at the same time.

If they reduce the burst of the assassins they must add some defensive things into their kits and that's something that simply doesn't suit an assassin. They are supposed to be fast, light armored squishy high short burst champions.

Again, I agree with you, completely, but it's not something that would work in league of legends unless Riot completely changes the game, which ain't gonna happen.

ReikkenAug 22, 20161 votes

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have up to 3k HP and deal as much damage as yet barely anyone complains about them.

two wrong points: 1 - dealing as much damage as Zed while building tank. lol. very false. They may be unkillable, but it takes them 5 seconds to kill you instead of Zed's 1-2 second. (plus 1-2 sec of waiting for your inevitable death to the mark after Zed dips) 2 - people not complaining. Just look at this board. Set the fliter at the top to "new". There are like 5 topics on the first two pages complaining about tank assassins at any moment.