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PLEASE don't fucking ornn-ify aatrox.

AetherArising·7/8/2018, 6:15:28 AM·20 votes·8,141 views

I heard a lot of outcry over the past week or two about how Aatrox is "rito's biggest mistake and worst rework and is 100000% un-viable"

Its a load of crap.

Every Aatrox I've fought so far since his live release has played like an ape, missed over 2/3rds of their Qs, and still wins off the crazy scalings of his abilities and the GA that allows for surprisingly far away escapes considering it all

The reason people whine? He's a high skill cap champion (well, SHOULD be, but if the lack of red-zone hits of these players is anything to go by while still winning lane and game is painful 'nough.

He's also pretty bad against anyone with high mobility like Yasuo, Riven, etc that can just negate his minimal mid-q movement and escape his W's But against immobile champs of all types, you're fucked kiddo. Darius? Nah. Top Kench? GL in lcs, pal. Hell, even when i jungle and he's the enemy top, he's a bigger pain to deal with than about 90%~ of champs (other pain-champs including Renekton, Camille, Riven etc).

Hell, most people will probably shrug this off as a salt-post and screech about my last dari game, but frankly, no. That game was carried by a Hecarim that just got fed early and snowballed, Aatrox went pretty negative that game but so did i because *all he did was out-sustain, out-trade, out-move every gank, and if you tried to push to tower he'd just kill your whole wave with 1 Q rotation. I'm talking about every single game I've had against this wheezy shouty russian demon man.

Oh, you want to take tower anyways? You're already dead. You want to dive him and take it after? GL with 2 lives and mobility-while-resurrecting. You want to SOMEHOW kill him in lane and then go for it? Well, assuming he doesn't just hard disengage and heal up off his E spellvamp and you manage to kill him twice, he'll likely have TP since he doesn't need ignite to have good enough kill pressure in lane

The flaw comes with the fact that he's oppressive to every immobile champ, and pathetic against every mobile one. I'll admit, if you take something like Camille or Riven or Renekton i guarantee you'll have a waaaaay easier time against him. But you shouldn't have to pick a champion you're inexperienced to have a chance at winning a lane, that completely eliminates the factor of skill or proficiency with your main champs.

If i have a 67% wr with Tahm Kench and a 0% wr with Jax, you know who the hell i'm picking among those 2 choices. If i have a 71% on 14 games of Darius, and 1 lost game on Irelia, you know which i'd pick.

Its always wise to have a handful of picks to play, but i'd rather enjoy myself and focus on macro play instead of trying to cram every single active and ability into a Camille combo, ignoring the enemy jg rushing me at mach 12. That's why Camille is still one of my lower above-50% winrate champs that can be played effectively in top. I'd forgo the ability to play well by map awareness and rotations to gain the ability to have a chance to win a lane topside

I hear that riot's happy with Aatrox's current Q buffs and i hope they don't buff him again. Frankly, a light nerf might be warranted.

People are still learning, and another Kai'sa incident would be nice to avoid, but i'm not holding out too much hope, knowing good ol' Risotto Games.

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14 Comments

ValiantKiller7/8/2018, 7:04:42 AM4 votes

Ohhh boy, you should see my Urgot against Aatrox . He already my one to go Banned without thinking, i disgust aatrox as Urgot main and he destroy me badly without able to touch him even if game consider urgot ranged his Q range enough to catch me. And urgot is mobile ? joke on you his W slow him down, a skill slow you down xDDD

Wild Geese7/8/2018, 12:34:00 PM3 votes

High skill cap? I'm destroying with him and I absolutely suck at the game. Overtuned AF.

Also, still a bad rework. I'm just in it for the freelo. This new champion is not a faithful rework and a failure. His whole niche if he even has one is "death-tanking".

BeatzBoyFTW7/8/2018, 8:14:42 AM2 votes

Thing I like best about new Aatrox is that he can finally counter range champions with ease. Managed to forced enemy top lane Teemo into 0/11 easily.

Ayzev7/8/2018, 8:37:11 AM2 votes

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I heard a lot of outcry over the past week or two about how Aatrox is "rito's biggest mistake and worst rework and is 100000% un-viable"

Its a load of crap.

Every Aatrox I've fought so far since his live release has played like an ape, missed over 2/3rds of their Qs, and still wins off the crazy scalings of his abilities and the GA that allows for surprisingly far away escapes considering it all

The rework is indeed garbage and doesn't work. But regardless of how shit a champion is, they're bound to start winning when they get a hot-"fix" that skyrockets their raw numbers.

saltran7/8/2018, 7:36:16 AM2 votes

Late, they saw a bunch of silvers on both Reddit and the Boards crying because reworked Aa was useless and the worst rework ever so they have to buff him.

Enjoy.

Nøctμrne7/8/2018, 3:47:14 PM1 votes

I honestly love this new aatrox, he has so many opportunities to outplay and maneuver himself into better positions then most other champions that I play. I'm a jungle main and play him there, so I'm not with everyone at top. But I feel I am doing very well with him.

After I feel I have a decent level of mastery of him, I'm still far off because of this extremely high mastery skillcap, but I'm okay with it.

TyroneWatermelon7/8/2018, 11:04:32 PM1 votes

Impossible, Darius cannot lose in a 1v1 against any melee champion

Vectros7/9/2018, 1:11:01 AM1 votes

I agree he'll do well against immobile champs.

But the thing is, most champs, particularly viable ones, are mobile.

So most viable champs are going to be a bad matchup for Aatrox, just based on his design.

I think he'll be a niche pick-good vs those occasional immobiles, bad against everything else.

Nyarlathοtep7/9/2018, 12:05:38 AM

sigh

But against immobile champs of all types, you're fucked kiddo. Darius? Nah. Top Kench? GL in lcs, pal. Hell, even when i jungle and he's the enemy top, he's a bigger pain to deal with than about 90%~ of champs (other pain-champs including Renekton, Camille, Riven etc).

Bs. As aatrox, my go ban champ is darius. You are almost always within his e range, if he is close to you, you cant hit your 1st q edge (unless you flash ofc), hitting 2nd q edge you have to dash (darius can still evade it) and your 3rd q edge is very difficult to be evaded as darius. However after that, the only thing that can deal any sort of damage is your passive. After that you are much much weaker (well your aa's will still hurt but nothing compared to darius noxian might). Tahm is not designed to be a toplaner.

GL with 2 lives

Thats nothing new in aatrox's cases.

mobility-while-resurrecting

AHAHAHAHAH. Nice joke. This is a complete joke tbh. I would prefer it MILES if they would remove the option to move during reviving, just to increase his ulti duration by a single second. I have yet to find a good use of being able to move during resurrection. Although theoretically it can help.

The flaw comes with the fact that he's oppressive to every immobile champ,

Bs. The flaws come when the enemy can sidestep correctly. All of my games won as aatrox was because my opponents had the iq of a rock. Even ones that should be difficult (mobile ones) where easy just because they didnt bother to evade my q.