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Viktor changes or Patch 6.9

Helix Nebula·4/23/2016, 6:40:21 PM·8 votes·4,002 views

Okay Riot, please actually pay attention to the playerbase for this champion for once. All of the Viktor main reddit is opposed to these changes, and the league subreddit itself is against these changes. Nowhere on Facebook have I seen support for the Viktor changes. Nowhere on Twitter have I seen support for these changes. Nor in game to any Viktor player I tell the rundown to. No one.

But the biggest, and loudest thing that they all say is wrong with his changes, is that the delay on his Augmented Death Ray, is character breaking. The reasoning behind it is clear, you removed the 60% damage reduction if they get hit by both, it deals more damage if you hit both parts now. But you cannot hit both parts without a teammate applying their own form of hard CC.

Now yes, you said you wanted to make his team fighting better without buffing his single target blow up, but this quite literally is not the way to do it. Even if it means giving the damage reduction back, his E should not be this slow.

Not only does this kill his main poke in lane, but this makes his kit feel clunky for no reason. Viktor cannot reliably on his own land the Augmented Aftershock on Death Ray. Regardless of building Rylais Crystal Scepter, or slowing them in your W (which still can be walked out of), you very easily can continue to walk out of his Death Ray.

Link to League subreddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4ftav7/these_viktor_changes_are_going_to_make_him_the/

Link to Viktor main subreddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/viktormains/comments/4fye2g/so_viktors_changes_are_confirmed_to_go_through/

9 Comments

For Viktory5/4/2016, 1:36:33 AM2 votes

This is the shittiest tune for him... All this does is make it easier for people to outplay him.. like even his Q apart from it being a nicer shield will do far less dmg loseing over a 100 ad off the empowered attack late game. Just makes him an easier target.. Rito Games at their best

MrLlamaWaffle4/23/2016, 7:06:08 PM2 votes

"Nah, we did a survey that asked " does viktor need some changes" most people answered yes, so we're changing him...for the worse. Thanks for the feedback!" riot 2016

TrulySolo4/27/2016, 3:57:49 PM1 votes

I completely agree with you, however I think that the only downside to these changes is that the E aftershock delay being 1.25 seconds as opposed to .6 seconds is a little to much for his main damaging ability and one of the more difficult skill shots to actually land in the game, and it has a somewhat long cool down, and the AP ratios are being decreased. I think that if riot would just remove the change to the increased delay on aftershock then, I would consider these changes to be reasonable, but this increased delay on aftershock will probably make his kit feel really clunky, slow, and extremely difficult to use since his burst will be significantly decreased and most of his abilities too easy to dodge. His W already has a delay before you can get the stun off so making another ability being on a delay will put him in a terrible conditions, despite the well deserved Q buffs or the double E damage I think it would be nearly impossible to land aftershock unless your target is CCD.I don't agree with the ult changes too cause it just makes his damage more delayed and will make trying to all in or burst your opponent down nearly impossible, but that is not as much of a concern as this supposed delay to aftershock. Please share this to hopefully remove this aftershock delay, Riot don't make Viktor weaker, though the other changes seem acceptable.

koped5/8/2016, 1:03:19 AM1 votes

Hi Viktor main since his release the only change I like is with the Q the laser is clunky but the damage is great if hit The ult is the only thing I have a problem a 2 second delay is way too long so I'm half half with this rework

SB Arneeman5/10/2016, 9:52:58 AM1 votes

I have mixed feelings about this change. One of the main reasons I play Viktor is that he can oneshot squishies in under a second, even when not very fed. This got kinda ruined this patch, but it looks like he now has higher sustained damage.

It's really easy to dodge the second part of the laser now, but remember that the missile speed also went up. So basically the first part is easier to land, and the second is harder. The total damage has gone up to 120% ap with more base damage, but the second part is unreliable now, and if you miss it you lose a 70% ap scaling.

Even though two seconds is a very long delay on the ult, it is a buff all over. The ap ratio on the full duration is absolutely insane now. The ratio is actually 230% AP now(50+60+60+60), but it still feels so weird to use with the delay and slow travel speed. Remember that you get no damage from having your ult on top of enemies between the damage ticks now.

I don't really understand what riot wanted with this change. I'd say his waveclear is stronger now, because one laser clears the entire wave when you have the upgrade and some AP, even when not fed, but his laser is unreliable in fights. This is not what riot said they wanted with the update at all.

After playing him a little with the updates, I feel like he is still viable. He's still a monster lategame(I actually oneshot an ezreal with only my E ability, wtf) but he's more clunky to play now, his kit feels less smooth overall. Even though his damage is harder to land, it does have higher scalings now. You have to think much more about the position of your E and R, instead of just using your entire combo to blow up all squishies in the area, and then have the R just staying there not doing much. Rylais may be a very good item on him now, to set up your R and E to hit properly.

It's important to note that your ult can actually kill squishies by itself now, if you summon it on the enemy front line and get the three later ticks on top of their backline. You should use it early in teamfights now to get maximum damage, instead of how you could hold it to oneshot people before.

XoX Huya XoX5/12/2016, 7:40:48 PM1 votes

Vik main; the damage buff is nice, but honestly, I rather have a bit less damage and be able to land the full E. Right now is completly unfeasible, the delay on the explosion is just ridicuolus. Hope Riot change it fast, or i think Vik is never gonna be the tear 1 champion he used to be.

Reiberdatschi5/24/2016, 11:53:03 AM1 votes

Honestly i play viktor since season 2 and i never thought that his e is hard too hit , Its propably easier too land than an cho q in an 1v1 i really like the new aftershock e the damage is enormus and the delay is ok i guess.

The thing is you need the extra damage on your e now that your ult is so god damn awefull for burst, i rarely use or need his ult now , with lichbane the burst from your base spells is enouth too hurt... a lot even oneshot adc with q but the ult i just throw it on top of teamfights and forget it untill i have cd and run 2 seconds are long af Viktor

Savage Devi4/23/2016, 7:22:38 PM1 votes

Just a thought, has this post been written with this update in mind?