Random Morde Balance Ideas

King Livid·6/12/2019, 11:49:40 PM·12 votes·6,854 views

It's literally the first day of his release, so in all honesty he might not even need adjustment. I'm just bored and came up with some ideas. I tried to be creative and avoid directly nerfing damage tooltips.

1: Remove the Ms bonus on his passive. His core item is Rylais. 2: Increase the amount of hits required to proc his passive. It could be 4 or 5, maybe have it scale down by level. 3: Decrease the duration of his Ult to 5 seconds at rank 1, then have it scale up to 6/7 at 11/16. It isn't even worth putting more then one point into right now. 4: Decrease the speed of his E cast. 5: Decrease the speed of his Q cast. 6: Make his R have a cast time of 1s or something, so the enemy can interrupt it with cc 7: Decrease his auto attack speed. 8: Have his passive cancel or stall while Morde is stunned. Like A-sol stars. 9: Fix Lordekaiser skin. 10: Make it so he can't gain more then one passive stack per 1second.

34 Comments

Lock On6/13/2019, 5:44:29 AM7 votes

The ult is very unhealthy for the game. Not sure what the designer was smoking when he thought it was a good idea. But if they're hellbent on keeping it, there needs to be some real counterplay for it.

Pendergast8916/13/2019, 8:43:07 AM5 votes

item 3140 can be used on his ult. People should recognize morde as someone that you gotta pay the qss tax on like with Malzahar

Nyarlathοtep6/13/2019, 5:37:51 AM3 votes

Remove the Ms bonus on his passive. His core item is Rylais.

Are you sure it is? Because in my experiece i never found the item extremely important. The slow is nice but because of the ms bonus the slow felt unneeded.

Increase the amount of hits required to proc his passive. It could be 4 or 5, maybe have it scale down by level.

No. How the hell will he able to proc his passive with only 2 damaging spells? Aa? He has no innate slow so the enemy would walk away.

Decrease the duration of his Ult to 5 seconds at rank 1, then have it scale up to 6/7 at 11/16. It isn't even worth putting more then one point into right now.

No. How the HELL WILL HE BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IN 5 SECONDS? DUDE HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED THE CHAMP?

Decrease the speed of his E cast.

But its not that fast. The moment you see it you have to sidestep it.

Decrease the speed of his Q cast.

Ahahahahahaha.

Make his R have a cast time of 1s or something, so the enemy can interrupt it with cc

No his ulti has plenty of counterplay. IF FOR SOME REASON you think its not, remember, zed, fiora and camille ulti exist.

Have his passive cancel or stall while Morde is stunned. Like A-sol stars.

OH butcher his teamfight. Nice idea there. And generally his dps. facepalm

Make it so he can't gain more then one passive stack per 1second

ROFL.

Makarakarn6/13/2019, 2:48:48 PM2 votes

My comments might come off as little passive aggressive or rude but I swear they're not, I just really don't agree lol.

1: Remove the Ms bonus on his passive. His core item is Rylais. Yes lol, let's just allow him to be kited into actual oblivion by litterally everyone 2: Increase the amount of hits required to proc his passive. It could be 4 or 5, maybe have it scale down by level. Not only would this make 0 difference in team fights, it's just unneeded 3: Decrease the duration of his Ult to 5 seconds at rank 1, then have it scale up to 6/7 at 11/16. It isn't even worth putting more then one point into right now. Ehhhh this is like the only reasonable one you made. 4: Decrease the speed of his E cast. As if you couldn't already dodge this. 5: Decrease the speed of his Q cast. On his main damage active? Really? 6: Make his R have a cast time of 1s or something, so the enemy can interrupt it with cc Yes because there aren't enough ways to counter his ult already (Stopwatch, Zhonyas, QSS, CC, Grouping on his location, THE LIST GOES ON) 7: Decrease his auto attack speed. w h y ? 8: Have his passive cancel or stall while Morde is stunned. Like A-sol stars. Yes, because CC locking isn't toxic enough 9: Fix Lordekaiser skin. You're not wrong. 10: Make it so he can't gain more then one passive stack per 1second. No.

Luigi Tortellini6/13/2019, 12:11:05 AM2 votes

Make it just like any of the first 100 champions,

He only has 1 passive per ability... that means

  1. Losing the second passive on his passive, no more free on hit damage with an insane ratio
  2. No more isolated Q damage, it does enough damage just fine
  3. No more ult stealing stats
  4. No more free magic pen

That's a start. IMO he will never be balanced with the way his ult works. It doesn't matter how many people you throw at him he always kill at least 1 since he has permaslow with rylais. There his never been a champion with less counterplay in the history of league of legends. Poppy got reworked and lost her old ult for this?

rtbf2476264236/13/2019, 2:58:25 PM1 votes

he's perfect where he is now, just make his pull less effective interms of either range or distance pulled and he's so much weaker.

Hemulen Magi6/13/2019, 12:02:20 AM1 votes

Agree on 1, 7, 10, but most of all, 9. Disagree or am neutral/undecided on the others.

Iron Phantom6/13/2019, 3:20:19 PM1 votes

1, 6, 8, seem like good nerfs to me and 9 just needs to happen.

CodenameCupcake6/13/2019, 10:37:03 AM1 votes

Honeslty id just say buff his W to make him tankier then nerf his passive damage and Q aoe damage by 20% but buff the Q's single target dmg by like 10%, that way he is less bursty and his damage comes over time.

The Kombinator6/13/2019, 12:06:08 PM1 votes

I didn't played him, but in my opinion the general problem is the extreme base survival. You build it on full AP, and still can't kill without CC while having insane damage. This is a general problem with pretty much every damage champ lately. They get so much survival in one way or another, that with only attack items they can survive.

Solution: Reduce base survival of everyone who aren't really squishy right now, and buff the tank items. It's ridiculous, that a Soraka with 4 tank item has less survival, than a Morde, or Garen with pure damage.

Kristoph Gavin6/13/2019, 2:21:29 PM1 votes

So, in other words, those aren't "balance changes" but just a list of hard nerfs you want to apply to Morde so he becomes as impactful as he was pre-rework

Śhunpo6/13/2019, 2:24:40 PM1 votes

Make his ult's duration 3 seconds, but as compensation, the cast goes off even if the target exists FoW before the cast completes, or the ult doesn't go on full CD.