A Lack of Support Items for Ability Power Champions Who do Damage More Than Healing

Their is a reason for that it doesnt make for a healthy bot lane man, if they gave more ap they would indirectly buff shield power. It would also make a which mage bot lane does more dmg to make the lane for the enemy adc hell. Just playing against brand which doesnt even need to build ap items is hard enough to deal with along with Zyra. I usually hate adc mains but it is no fun being poked down by a mage along with a cait it is pure cancer.

Brand and Vel'koz don't need more reasons/ways to ruin bot lane

That's not an accident. Damage supports have high base damages so they don't have to rely to much on items.

I don't think it's possible to make an AP item that's support oriented without threading into mage territory. We've already seen what happened when FQC was good, that good that mid laners simply opted into first purchasing it and using it's already strong gold gen and utility meant for supports for their own benefit, to set up super easy ganks or create impossible situations for the enemy to dodge their skillshots (guaranteeing a used up Flash).

Also, what's wrong with Mejai's? It's a really decent (and cheap) item that relies on stacking it through kills or assists. As this is a risky buy for mid laners (they'd rather have guaranteed damage from raw AP), mage supports opting for this is a really good idea. And seeing if you can stack it is simply done through a purchase of an early game item (Dark Seal).

I buy Dark Seal regularly when i play Zilean or Morgana. Also, certain supports do scale their utility through AP so simply giving them the raw power to boost it (as opposed to passive increases in raw healing + shielding power), would probably upset a delicate balance between damage and utility that exists. Mages aren't exactly a staple bot laners but they do end up in the support position as they might share some traits as supports (CC that doesn't scale with AP).

Yeah, too bad no one cares! :D

As a Zilean support main playing @ platinum levels, here is what you should be building, and I think there are TONS of options for AP Support right now.

Required for any AP support. This is core. Zilean is a late-game support, this is a fantastic late-game damage boost with a huge early-game advantage. Being able to never go OOM as Zilean is a very practical skill. Required for ANY AP mage or support, period. CDR is especially important to max on Zilean Good late-game cheap damage spike. Not as good as . And you are almost always gunning for late game as a Zilean support. Arguably the best item for any AP mage in the game currently. Must-buy. Great item for Zilean - get as many movement-speed boosting items as possible - He has one of the most powerful hastes in the game, remember that he pairs best with champions that need to stick on their targets. Your best option for dealing with bulky tanky initiate-style teams. Mind the no CDR - you ALWAYS want Max CDR as Zilean.

Still probably the best defensive item against attack damage. The movespeed boost is just too good. This allows you to reliably keep up with your hasted targets. It also give you time to react to being exploded by AD assassins. Super fantastic in almost every situation. It lets you keep two targets alive at the same time. You will always be a target - if your not, then your not at the skill level you should be. Still arguably the best MR item in the game. Way better than anyone gives it credit for, it's especially amazing on Zilean because he is one of the KINGS of counter-engage. Solid choice, but I personally think its overrated. Again, really solid choice. Most Zileans will favor damage over this, because they use their ultimate to turn the tables. Underrated - Absolutely Killer if you start becoming the target.

So sad not everyone replying here understood you're looking for SUPP items on ap mages with lil to no heal. Even tho it's clear in the title.

Feel the same way ehen playing Fiddlesticks Support.

Have you played against a AP Support Those are fun lanes to be against.

I used to build rush Iceborne Gauntlet on Sona, but they removed the AP. Much sadness.

My current Zil build is something like: > , , , ,

is really feeling this right now. She has a shield and it matters, but the cd is so long that buying shielding/healing items isn't really worth while. She just wants cdr, mana, and ap and truckloads of it all.

But even the typical mage items don't really fit her well except for Zhonya's and it's hard to get enough cdr on her with support levels of gold without buying something that feels really awkward on her.

All the typical Mid Mage items are fine, what do you want more for your Zilean?

is just inferior to and . if supports relied on stats more the role would be more fun late game for the support player.

i guess i cant have an opinion on this cus i play zillean by his utility and not his damage, i hate being reliant on damage and as a support you dont get that much, guess i just have too much fun using talisman+99% speedups on my yi or making their fed hecarim go to 100 movespeed :')

Was really hoping they'd shape Zeke's up to be a more solid Mage Support item. Disappointed that it turned out to be a tank item instead.

Oh so you want to turn the bot lane into a support carry and an ADC support. Check.

No. Sincerely, RITO.

No offence, but Zilean already gives me tumor with his instant ulti on a dying person to turn them to full hp for no reason at all, so I would much prefer if he had to actually go full AP and not get both AP and support items. Same for champions I play such as Brand or Morg, if you want AP go and build mage items, if you want to be full support then buy support items. You shouldnt have both.