SHURIMA!

ABucketOfDisease·Sep 26, 2016·2 votes·523 views

I'm getting Azir next any tips on drifting and stuff? I'm thinking of buying Zz'rot Portal Zhonya's Hourglass Rabadon's Deathcap Rylai's Crystal Scepter Nashor's Tooth and Sorcerer's Shoes Any different builds?

22 Comments

Handy Sandy Sep 26, 20162 votes

A good build for him is item 3165 item 3115 item 3006 item 3135 item 3089 item 3116 replacing with item 3157 item 3151 when needed. He's not trash, though. He's definetly viable and playable.

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

Thanks but why not get Sorcerers shoes instead of void staff and take Zz'rot instead of Berserkers

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

Maybe even guardian angel I do like Liandry's though

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

Maybe even guardian angel I do like Liandry's though i would like to keep Zz'rot in the equation though

TyrekGoldenspearSep 27, 20162 votes

Because the extra magic pen you get from item 3020 doesn't compare to the DPS you get from item 3006 .

Also item 3512 Isn't all that useful on a mage like Azir because

he's not going to be pushing, he's going to be wrecking face.
Tank stats mean nothing without health to back them up, and Azir is wet tissue paper.
The active is pretty much useless on him, you're giving up DPS for a splitpush item that your top or support can take without your build suffering.

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

But Zz'rot is fun ;-;

TyrekGoldenspearSep 27, 20162 votes

I'm sorry, but if you want to play Azir to the best of your ability, then you better get with the program and build meta, and be the emperor you know you can be, and show those salty Azir hating [post edited to get to the point].

Anyway, passion aside, your ideal build should be item 3115 item 3006 item 3116 item 3089 item 3157 and either item 3026 , item 3165 or item 3001 , with the first three being built in that order almost all the time, and the others depending on the situation.

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

As long I have to do the least amount of work as possible I'll be fine that's basically the whole mentality behind him isn't it? I don't know I just feel Zz'rot would help hold minion waves back when getting buffs and help get some extra farm.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 27, 20162 votes

Well, you are the emperor after all. :D

Oh no, if you are getting Zzrot to hold a wave so you can get buffs then that is a terrible idea, and let me tell you why.

You will push the wave to their tower. If they are good at farming under tower they will freeze the wave there (only last hitting minions so their wave never gets back to the middle)
You should be pushing them into their tower anyway, and while they are fighting the minions back to your tower, you should have gotten your buff and be back at your lane laughing at them.

Plus Zz'rot isn't cheap. It will put a major damper in your DPS, basically meaning you have to get more gold to do meaningful damage, and with the fast paced games of today, you can't afford to slow your build down.

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

True Mabye thornmail just to get that little bit more or maybe just go warmogs

TyrekGoldenspearSep 27, 20162 votes

thornmail

? ? ?????

Oh wait, you're level 10. Sorry, but I've been yelled at for suggesting to put thornmail on a mage. So instead of doing that, I'll just tell you who builds thornmail and why.

Rammus builds thornmail Taric against a full AD team builds thormail

Mages do not build thornmail, especially not a squishy one like Azir.

You see, armor and health work in tandem. Every point in armor means that you have to deal 1% more damage of that type to kill somebody.

For example, If I have 1000 Health and 25 Armor, then I have 25% bonus effective health against physical attacks, so that means someone will have to deal 1250 in physical damage to kill me.

Buying Thornmail gives me a flat 100 armor. (It has a passive too, but it's useless in midlane, kinda like the item itself, but let's not get to ahead of ourselves.)

So that means that I have 125 armor. So that means that it will take 2,250 Physical damage to kill.

Sounds good right? Actually it isn't. It is an expensive item, and it will slow down your damage build, and it's useless mid lane because the enemy will mostly be hitting you with magic damage, which is migated by magic resist.

It won't even protect you against AD champs. Here's why.

Say a Garen with 120 AD just autos you. With a base health of 1000, and a base of 25 armor, it will take less then nine hits to kill you. With Thornmail that increases to about 18. But here's the kicker. even if he has to hit you 18 times to kill, your enemy mid laner only has to hit you with a single rotation of spells to kill you because your armor means nothing to them. This is why Mages build glass cannon, with more focus on damage than survivability, because to get tanky enough for it to matter, you won't hurt much at all, and become useless.

As for Warmogs, eh. If you really want tanky health, grab item 3742 because of the massive MS boost you get, it will help because you run really slow, and because you attack through your soldiers, you will effectively always have the passive on.

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

Yeah I suppose that makes sense

TyrekGoldenspearSep 27, 20162 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

You'll be fine, I practically learned the game on Azir. :D

Handy Sandy Sep 27, 20161 votes

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Thanks but why not get Sorcerers shoes instead of void staff and take Zz'rot instead of Berserkers

Void staff has better penetration than sorc, and berserkers adds to his attack speed. If you really need the magic penetration though like if there are 2-3 tanks/bruisers on the enemy team get a item 3151 instead of item 3089

zzrot is for supports or Heimerdinger that want to splitpush, and azir's role is to dish out massive damage not splitpush. It also doesn't offer great stats for him, the ones he needs the most are CDR, attack speed, and AP

DenevielSep 26, 20161 votes

My only tip .... Refund!

... he is in a pretty unplayable state atm ... you need to be god-tier with him to be at most a viable pick

Handy Sandy Sep 26, 20162 votes

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My only tip .... Refund!

... he is in a pretty unplayable state atm ... you need to be god-tier with him to be at most a viable pick

Uh, no. I'm not even ranked yet and I'm doing a pretty good job of destroying people/going equal with them when I play him.

ABucketOfDiseaseOct 26, 20161 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2317285639/235044344?tab=overview Boy this was the first match

Dabrick01Sep 26, 20161 votes

I wouldn't even bother playing him. He is garbage right now. Even pros can't get above a 48% win rate. It sucks to say this but he is the second worst champ right now. Riot hates the place he is in because of his kit.

Unlike Yasuo who strong because of skill and build paths, Azir is strong because of his kit.

He was super powerful in the right hands, and that was why he was nerfed so much. He is so bad now that he is impossible to pick up and is garbage if played perfectly. You can't even counter what you should be able to anyway.

They will give him a small rework eventually, it's better to wait for that.

This build is good tho.

ABucketOfDiseaseSep 27, 20161 votes

But I mean he does have a sexy voice

TyrekGoldenspearSep 27, 20162 votes

Good answer.

Although for me it was more epic, and his cinematic sealed the deal for me.

NahuiSep 26, 20161 votes

First off, it's not drifting. Anyone that called it drifting and got that silly phrase in your head should quit Azir. It's the Shurima Shuffle.

Now 2. I HIGHLY advise against playing him. On top of having a very weak state right now, even in a strong state, he requires so so much practice to do well. And by that I mean consistently with a good margin, not buying him and first game going 15-3.

You can get lucky, or just do well in first impressions. I'm victim to it a lot where I pick a champ, crush a couple or few games, and think this is the new sleeper and it's amazing. Then like 5-20 games down the road things normalize and suddenly I realize the issues with The champ and why I don't see him/her often.

So as fun as Azir looks and as well as you've done, I can 100% guarantee you are not ready for Azir. Especially if you're new to ranked. You will win one game, two, three, fifteen maybe. But at some point you will get to a place where you find yourself poorly performing and even when winning you're not doing so well. That's how champs like Azir or Orianna work that have high skill caps. Unless luck is heavily on your side or you are incredibly skilled, it will happen and it sucks finding a new champ.

Handy Sandy Sep 27, 20161 votes

That's with every champion though, with ori btw even if you're behind her synergy with so many champions along with her sheer utility will make her a great teamfighter even if she's 3-5 levels behind.