Malzahar is the new Permaban

Classico·May 4, 2016·5 votes·2,308 views

And as a Malzahar main.... please nerf Malz so I can play my champ again :(

11 Comments

SkrillviciiMay 4, 20163 votes

Seriously... why did they rework Malz at all?

ParoeMay 4, 20161 votes

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Seriously... why did they rework Malz at all?

He needed a few changes. The current passive and W are great; put them on the old kit, and it would be good. then give him the reworked ult and give it 200/250/300base+1.0AP +pool (without scaling) and he loses a good amount of burst in exchange for on-demand voidlings. You could further limit the voidlings to 4 to let you refresh them if the cooldown of the ability is less than their duration (30%CDR), which would greatly nerf his jungle capacity which was granted by the on demand voidlings.

You can achieve this by making the current E work better on lane minions (say +0.4AP scaling when used on minions)? Or even making his E give you kill gold if an enemy minion spreads the visions, but doesnt do the last tick of damage.

AttackOfTheBeardMay 5, 20161 votes

wait hold on are you fucking kidding me? you're saying that malzahar should get the instant free % health pool on his ult PLUS a base damage that scales 100% with AP? LMAO what a joke. make a faceroll champ even easier and guarantee more kills than his ult already does. malazahar with 300 AP would be doing 600 damage base off his ult and then 6% max health per second for 2.5 seconds. go home you're drunk. that champion is busted and faceroll easy. cancer to league. oh wait sorry...Aids to league.

ParoeMay 5, 20161 votes

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wait hold on are you fucking kidding me? you're saying that malzahar should get the instant free % health pool on his ult PLUS a base damage that scales 100% with AP? LMAO what a joke. make a faceroll champ even easier and guarantee more kills than his ult already does. malazahar with 300 AP would be doing 600 damage base off his ult and then 6% max health per second for 2.5 seconds. go home you're drunk. that champion is busted and faceroll easy. cancer to league. oh wait sorry...Aids to league.

WIthout scaling, child. I realize reading comprehension is difficult for those who never graduated into highschool.

2.5 seconds.

His suppression lasts 2.5 seconds.

You will, AT MOST, get 3 seconds of the pool off if you arent CC'd or cleansed. Now, whats better? 25% of a thousand, or 300?

Understand what malzahar LOST, kid. He lost not only his identity, but also his lane potential as a mid laner because he CANNOT BULLY with such low base damages and such an obscene reliance on an ability which is canceled by a single AoE, or as other have stated in other threads, a single spellblade proc.

Xion MoonrayMay 4, 20161 votes

As much as I love Malzahar's new kit, I have to agree that I miss being able to play Space Aids. He's always been my primary mid champion, now he's always pick/ban, and people are going to expect him to always be jungle.

LuggMay 4, 20161 votes

I still would rather face Malz than Zed Yasuo Fizz Leblanc etc

AtheosisXMay 4, 20161 votes

Not sure why people would ban him since he's not remotely overpowered.

ParoeMay 4, 20161 votes

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Not sure why people would ban him since he's not remotely overpowered.

Hes just a very safe jungler with good objective control. People are equating fast, safe clears to OP, despite malzahar not really having good ganks due to lack of burst. Hes more an enabler type ganker; post 6 he enables the laner to kill their opponent via lockdown.

Ref1cMay 5, 20161 votes

I personally feel Malzahar is perfect right now for mid lanes, which I'm pretty sure was the intended role. I been a Malzahar fan and I feel this patch update was amazing. Now, I can finally be useful on team fights rather than staying 2 miles away and hitting few spells. I don't care at all for Jungle/AD Malz.

However, now I face the problem where people are banning him non-stop on ranked. People are saying he is too OP now, so I have a really bad feeling Riot is gonna nerf him. I truly hope somehow they can nerf him in JG (Which I think most of the complaints are coming from) but keep his power as it is right now for mid lanes.

Either way, I don't want to get good at malz if he's gonna be nerfed heavily again where you'll need to perfect your positions to be good at him. So, I would like to know future plans.

Sweaty VikingMay 6, 20161 votes

Malzahar is stupidly overpowered at the moment. I just had my first encounter with him in a normal game. Let me break it down for you.

He has a spell shield PASSIVE, which comes back every 6s at lvl 18
After his shield is knocked out, 90% damage reduction for 1, AFTER blocking the important CC
- Considering 1 and 2, at level 18 there's a 4 second window to actually do any damage to him, BUT
  1. He has an AOE silence
  2. He has a permanent suppression that lasts several seconds
  3. Crazy DoT and sustained damage from the void sickness, voidling agro, and the field thing

This allowed him to several crazy things like get a quadra in a 1v4 situation, when everyone started on full or near full health - He wasn't extremely fed, and us 4 were not very weak either

For sure the new update for Malzahar is a cool concept, but I feel it's way too strong to be allowed to remain unchanged on the Rift.

Perma-banning Malzahar from now on <3