Make Malzahar Q Function like Irelia E

Weemwomp··7 votes·3,790 views

It doesn't make any sense that Malz Q is so stationary while so many champions with dashes exist. It's hard enough to be an immobile mage player with every new champ having some kind of movement built into their kit. We should be able to press it twice and make it work like Irelia E. That's all.

You could also make it more thematically correct (it "opens portals" but some random purple stuff comes out) by having voidlings come out if the ability is not recast.

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ModAcademy Kayn9 votes

Yeah, let's give Malzahar even More waveclear. That's totally a great idea.

Weemwomp1 votes

Considering his early waveclear is tied to his voidlings, which everyone knows to focus in lane now (and which are generally worthless outside of waveclearing and 1v1ing), that wouldn't be a bad option. There should be some benefits to being an immobile mage, shouldn't there? Or is good, accessible waveclear supposed to not be on mages?

Sukishoo1 votes

No, his main wave clear has always been in his E.

Meteora7075 votes

getting shacomains flashbacks here, people asking for massive buffs to their 53% wr champion.

Weemwomp1 votes

Any champion with a dash or enough movespeed can play reactively to Malz Q. It's a quality of life buff if you ask me. I still don't think Malz is up to speed with reworked champions like Sion, Morde and Galio.

Meteora7072 votes

in many situations it effectively doubles the aoe of his Q in fights (narrow spaces in the jungle for example) as well as giving him much better waveclear mid and late game, so yeah no thanks man

deus sama dean1 votes

As a male main, it's call counterplay dude, champ is broken if you're good, can easily be stopped with the right countermeasures.

Modl Ryden l1 votes

Have Riot do the same for Yasuo's Windwall and Anivia's Crystallize!

Weemwomp1 votes

Honestly? Sure, why not. It might make Yasuo broken in sieges though. As for Anivia, I agree. This might make Froggen too OP, though.

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

I really like the Idea, it does sound very cool. But for a champion that effectively pushes the wave, this will make him be able to push wave even harder and much safer.

What you can make it work like is Viktor E/ Cassiopeia W, But have at a fixed angle, where you can change directions from left to right, or right to left, so You can use one side of the ability to quickly silence.

So have a delay change from a stationary from 0.4 delay. It will change from a 0.1 delay on one side, and a 0.6 delay on the other end.

Weemwomp1 votes

That might solve the issue. The main issue for me is that it's always at an awkward angle, and it needs a quality of life buff and probably some better vision markers, because it's a bit unclear where it's going to hit based off of the visuals (like Jhin W, which has a wider AoE than its indicator, for example).

Divewing1 votes

#glares at total anti-"I-severely-fucked-up-and/or-don't-have-to-care-about-my-positioning" passive

Weemwomp1 votes

glares at total anti-"I-severely-fucked-up-and/or-don't-have-to-care-about-my-positioning" dashes

Dashes made the new Malz passive necessary.

Divewing2 votes

That is such an idiotic statement.

High mobility champions are typically restricted in some way (Irelia and Yasuo can only dash towards enemies, Zed and LeBlanc only between their marked locations, Talon only on terrain). Almost every free movement dash is short range.

Weemwomp1 votes

But your statement does not address the issue I raised there and doesn't address my post. It's equally as idiotic and proves my point. The dashes of all champions, by the way, can be used defensively and can generally be spammed because they have low cooldowns (Yasuo) or resets (Irelia). Malzahar's passive provides nowhere near the safety net that having a better version of flash does. When you write "Irelia and Yasuo can only dash towrads enemies," you mean they have enemy targeted dashes. They can go away from me in lane. They can dodge my Q and then straight back into me if they want to. Dashes are damn busted, but Riot just keeps adding them in.

Divewing1 votes

Then get good.

There are at most 7 minions plus yourself either champion can dash to.

Irelia REQUIRES you to be marked, otherwise to reset her SINGLE DASH, it must kill the target (or be cast and in motion as the target dies). Right there that is 8 dashes maximum assuming PERFECT conditions. Yasuo is the same in that his has a cooldown he cannot recast on the same target for TEN WHOLE SECONDS UNTIL LEVEL 8.

Fact is, neither of these champions can engage on you first between your shield, the ult, and the silence. If you screw up and whiff the ability because youre being greedy, that's your own damn fault.

People dont pick malzahar to dominate lane (frankly they dont deserve to), they pick malzahar to stifle the other laner.

I'm sorry but if being passive is a problem for you, play a different champion. I don't see why Malz needs excessive buffs or Irelia and Yasuo excessive nerfs to accommodate your lazy entitlement.

preternatural1 votes

honestly it would open up so many new ways to balance him lol. should be done.

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