Can we make baron stronger

ChemicalBuster·Apr 17, 2018·35 votes·11,345 views

Being able to take down Baron in less than 30 seconds is too quick. Make him do more damage or more health. 3 people can melt him so fast

22 Comments

Ionian VulpixApr 17, 201811 votes

It's harder to take down super minions than it is Baron.

nelogisApr 17, 20183 votes

I mean, people always used to be able to melt that bastard. It's just that it was like min 40 and not min 20 (there were some exceptions that did this at min 30 or so but that was like a heavy single target DPS team)

The Barons late game is fine, his early is just too weak.

But if we buff his early game then the precious LCS will become too boring again so no, sorry bud, it ain't happening.

KarunamonApr 17, 20183 votes

D A M A G E C R E E P A M A G E C R E E P

MartinokillApr 17, 20182 votes

Honestly, dragon deserves this way more. We see ww kill dragons at what? Level 4? Of course we're talking about a very specific champion here, but I think buffing dragon would be much more impactful since it would initiate much more teamplay earlier in the game.

Baron is fine as it is. It needs to stay viable to take for low elo too. Not everyone might understand how to set up a baron take, or at what point to take it. If we make it stronger I feel like that would be too impactful.

FutureCreatorApr 17, 20181 votes

It's not just WW, you can do it with a lot of junglers. Right off the top of my head Aatrox, Kha'Zix and Rengar come to mind. Basically anyone with low cooldown burst/sustain can do it.

AlienPrimateApr 17, 20181 votes

Aatrox can do it at level 2 and walk away with most of his health.

ShaolinToiletApr 17, 20181 votes

Is there a video of that

AlienPrimateApr 17, 20181 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJC1cNbJrHQ&feature=youtu.be

ShaolinToiletApr 18, 20181 votes

Wow ok

notice me Sin piApr 17, 20182 votes

ww (or fiddlesticks, aatrox) being able to solo dragon at lv4 is fine. That was part of his in-game identity even before rework. It's a problem tho when other junglers can do that.

SasogwaApr 17, 20181 votes

Just make Baron get increased resistances for how many people are nearby (not necessarily a huge amount, +10 resists / nearby champion is quite fine). Doesn't make the rare champions able to solo it not able to do it anymore (still a cheese potential that is risky and takes some time), but prevents the easy 5 man team melting.

FrostlySparkApr 17, 20181 votes

A lot of people say this, but can I ask why? As a silver 4 trash player, baron gives me a run for my money every time my team attempts to take the objective. I feel as though in pro play, baron gets yeeted on, but in everywhere else baron yeets on us. Maybe i should shut my stupid silver 4 mouth, but can someone please explain why baron needs a buff?

xelakerApr 17, 20181 votes

outside of the lowest ranks baron is a joke. I took a baron yesterday with 2 people... a bard and a xin and I was at maybe just under half health and xin was full health. took us maybe 20 seconds max, and I only went over so he wasn't getting the solo baron debuffs

Recon1212Apr 17, 20181 votes

Yeah its crazy, when I first started playing baron was a terrifying monster that only the best of the best could kill. Now its a purple dildo that someone tried to make a vibrater and it shocks you a little bit sometimes when you use it

xelakerApr 17, 20181 votes

But muh pro plays!

MalfectiousApr 17, 20181 votes

A lot stronger, like a real raid boss. He should be so strong you almost can't thee man him at full build. There should be teams comps that can't do it at all.

notice me Sin piApr 17, 20181 votes

It's not baron that should be made stronger; it's ADC damage, mage cooldown%, tank maxHP% damage, etc. that should be weaker.

LVL99 Helper TKApr 17, 20181 votes

its fun to instantly decide a game because you can melt baron in 2 seconds flat.

so fun.

AnateraApr 17, 20181 votes

No we can't, because it would be too boring to watch when it happens in LCS. And that's the most important thing of all right? For the game to be fun to watch instead of fun to play?

Magic Wizard JoeApr 18, 20181 votes

MasterYi + Lulu will kill him before he finishes his spawn animation

BârdApr 18, 20181 votes

What if Baron had increased health regen for each champion near the pit?

Say, each champion within 300 range of the pit increases Baron's HP5 by 5 for each level that champion has (up to +900 HP5, or 180 health per second, if there are ten max level champions in the pit).