Diamond Jungle main looking to help players climb

Im knawt a smurf··2 votes·879 views

No, im not offering boosting.

I'm kind of bored with the game and I find more enjoyment helping players gain knowledge and experience through a sort of "coaching."

If you'd like to discuss certain junglers and what not or even how to play against a jungler, warding spots that help you play against junglers or help your team, or even situational discussion add:

Im knawt a smurf

Everyone else is free to troll me. Also I don't claim to be an amazing player, but I feel I can help the bronze/silver/gold/plat community in where exactly they're going wrong and help them improve as players instead of letting the lower elo community stay in the mindset of "its my team's fault."

Hit me up boiz. Hope to help some people out.

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Grymmstrike1 votes

Can you help me improve? I know part of my issue is my teams (4v5 is very hard to win even if you are amazing) and part is Riot (I don't want to play support, gdi) but I am having trouble being impactful in a lot of games. Are you able to spectate games and give advice or watch videos?

Im knawt a smurf1 votes

I'd be happy to help you out man I can go over video or spectate a game. Maybe record a game through op.gg and when you find a game you think was unwinnable or a game you thought you did amazing at and wanted to be given some tips on how you couldve done even better I can do that.

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Grymmstrike1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Im knawt a smurf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LWcimZRF,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-06-26T23:09:54.382+0000)

I'd be happy to help you out man I can go over video or spectate a game. Maybe record a game through op.gg and when you find a game you think was unwinnable or a game you thought you did amazing at and wanted to be given some tips on how you couldve done even better I can do that.

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https://youtu.be/jeaQquO6HxE

Grymmstrike1 votes
Im knawt a smurf1 votes
  • As WW you dont need to so the smaller jg minions first, just do the big one. Your sustain allows it.

  • Make some sort of hotkey to auto level up your abilities....I hate seeing that click to level up stuff.

  • If you don't already, use smartcast (let me know if you dont know what that means)

  • 11:50 you could have easily gotten a gank on ryze. A successful gank JUST doesnt mean you get a kill it means you put out enough pressure to cause your lane to have either an advantage or help them come back from the enemy laner having an advantage. Garen could have baited ryze to be aggressive. Also, always ping where you are going so your team knows where youre at and where you're going to gank.

  • 12:10 you had no reason to run away from vik, you could have easily chased him down and put out pressure. Shaco wouldnt have done shit with vik below 50% Also, whenever you are at that bush, that is where you want to ward optimally for your mid laner, so he can ward the other side (that lone bush in the middle of the river).

  • When you buy...double click the item and you buy it, instead of clicking buy. Makes things so much faster.

-Stop smiting golems, you dont need it as warwick, always smite raptors for the free pink trinket so you can, again, create pressure in other lanes and also deny vision to the enemy team.

  • 15:00 you wasted so much time stopping. doing nothing. looking at bot lane. thinking for a couple seconds, then deciding to go down there. It was over, you should have just done your buff and then done dragon.

  • When you do drag...learn to take the aggro before someone gets to 20% lol.

  • 16:00 you see malz going toward top, that is where you push mid and deny viktor the counter roam and put pressure on the middle turret. If you pushed mid, malz wouldve stayed with going top because he wouldn't be worried about vik pushing. Objectives win games.

  • 17:00 COVER FOR YOU LANERS. You see a big ass minion wave sitting at a turret and your laner isnt there, you go and cover that lane to deny pressure to your objectives. Again, objectives win games, not your red buff. You also could have EASILY ganked ryze being committed to that push so hard...youre level 7 at this point and still haven't ult'd. You should be looking to gank with your ult up ON CD.

  • 17:30 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

  • 17:40 you would have saved malz if you popped your ghost and ult'd..... while you were in river.

  • 18:00 good push to deny the cs and to create pressure, thats what you need to do more of. Even if the enemy has TP, you'll force his TP and deny him the ability to have an impact anywhere else on the map.

  • 19:35 Stop sitting in the bush waiting, push the lane and create pressure. You could have dove that viktor easily with your ult and malz' ult.

  • 19:55 Use your challenging smite during your ult....not after you've done everything

  • 21:20 You asked where garen was, and saw his lane being pushed. That's where you go top and push his lane to make sure no pressure is created on that turret until he does come back.

  • 21:30 because you didnt go top to clear the wave, your turret is now taking damage and you're losing an objective unnecessarily while having to cover mid to stop that pressure as well. That's an example of what the end outcome YOU want as a jungler, to create pressure everywhere around the map to keep the advantage and to make potential picks.

  • 21:48 Stop focusing alistar and dont waste your ult when you know you wont get a kill or anything. Your team was dead for the most part, you have zero reason to push, just clear the wave and back off t your jg, there was nothing to accomplish there.

  • It has been almost 15 minutes into the game and you still dont have boots. Please.

  • 22:45 Your team is pushing mid as 4 after the enemy team had to all back, you should have been mid helping push with your team as 5 then making a pick on one of the players that is now forced to protect the turret on their own, then after getting that pick you could have gotten dragon.

  • 16 minutes into the game and you've warded twice.

  • 23:50 You went for dragon instead of EASILY taking an inhib with your team. Inhib > wind drake.

  • 24:15 A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY to ward the enemy jungle and get picks and further your pressure to their side of the map.

24:40 POP GHOST AND GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, because you didnt get on vik fast enough, you guys were punished for a chase that should have ended 5 seconds before their team even got to them.

26:25 you got a pick then for some reason again...go in to the jg..instead of pushing and getting objectives.

27:56 you have 2k gold and can easily buy. Sitting on gold like that takes the advantage you have and basically makes it nonexistent and gives you the chance to throw and them the opportunity to take the game back.

  • You sit in your jg WAY TOO MUCH. You have 3 assists as a jungler and less than half of the kill participation. That should NOT be a thing as a jungler. This is prime example of you being carried by your team and you cleaning up from your team's success.

  • 29:19. Stop. Smiting. Golem.

  • 30:28 what you should have been doing all game. The game would have been over 5 minutes ago if you just pushed with your team....a little too ham though. Again OBJECTIVES > KILLS.

  • 32:26 you want to do baron, but havent made any picks and they're all up at this point AND you have zero vision. That is a prime opportunity youre giving to throw the game. You dont need baron that desperately, just group, push top, if you get a pick run it to baron.

  • 32:40 USE. YOUR. WARDS.

Generally, you got carried that game. You don't have any faith in the early ganks and pressure you can still create as ww. Personally I think ww is a useless champion and isn't the right jungler to climb with since there are so many better early pressure champions that provide more than ww.

In time you'll be able to recognize what to do and when to do it, but I think (based on the slow reactions, the lack of smart casting, and the lack of warding), you need to just get used to the game which comes with playing and knowledge. I can help with the knowledge part.

You went in to lanes and cleaned up kills yet didnt provide NEARLY as much as you could have as a fed ww. You just played farming simulator while your team did most of the work, that's why you are where you are. Once you learn how to make a bigger impact both for your team and against the enemy team instead of just for yourself by farming your jg 24/7, you'll be able to climb hard as fuck. Also....widen your jg champion pool...practice some other junglers in normals or something.

Grymmstrike1 votes

1.) I can't start on the big ones without killing little ones until I am at least level 3. If I clear Gromp and then start blue, I either die before finishing blue, or if I manage to kill blue I have to back or have bought potions before doing wolves. Once I get through wolves I could start focusing on the big ones first, but I don't see how it helps since I have to clear them all anyway and I take more damage by doing the big one first.

2.) I don't think level up hotkeys will help, since I have very slow fingers and haven't the slightest idea what would be even close to intuitive for leveling up a skill. I don't know if you can do something like shift+q or something as a hotkey, I don't think it is any faster for me but I can try.

3.) No clue what smartcast is.

4.) I moved away from Viktor because I didn't know where Shaco was and I didn't know if Malz would come up. It was either follow Viktor off his trap or go the other way. Since Viktor would kill me solo I moved away and then Malz got there but I wasn't in range to hit him and with no CC I didn't want to attempt to chase him and get killed by lasers.

5.) I can stop smiting golems, however that means I can't kill scuttle crabs in the early part of the game.

6.) How the fuck am I supposed to grab aggro on the dragon? Leona should have moved off of the dragon for a second or held off until I could grab aggro. I started dragon but when you first start dragon it knocks you back and then aggros the first thing that hits it. I got knocked back and Leona hit before I could afterward. Unless she backs off I know of no way to grab aggro at that point. I moved becausr I didn't know if I was obstructing her view of her health bar and maybe she didn't know she was dying. If there is a way to pull aggro off someone please let me know, because I have had a lot of people die because they wouldn't pull off dragon or baron when they were low.

7.) Coming from drag heading up Malz was already almost back to mid by the time I got to mid. He started back while we were basically just finishing dragon.

8.) While I probably should have gone top, Garen was already heading back so there wasn't a lot of damage done to the turret.

9.) Yes, I more than likely could have saved Malz had I remembered my ghost. I didn't even remember ghost until I realized I accidentally fat-fingered F while trying to hit R.

10.) I couldn't have dove the Viktor easily due to the fact I was half health not tanky. If I ulted under turret I would have died 100% guaranteed. Additionally, I think we did the right thing because we ended up getting Viktor and Bird lady. Fair point on the smite thing, although I do use it early a good portion of the time. I just don't hit buttons very fast and was trying to hit R + Q + W already. Hitting F as well will come with time as my fingers start to work better.

11.) You say to go top, and yes, that is what you should do. However, when you have had over a dozen people afk/dc in the past 10 games (Yes, averaging more than 1 per game) I'm not going to become a top laner because someone goes afk. If I thought he would have come back I could have pushed the top back out, but I figured, based on all my previous games, that he was gone for good. I am really bad at CSing in lane, so if he WAS gone and I went up there I would end up falling far behind because I can't CS minions.

12.) Actually my team was 100% alive, although only Garen and I were there. Garen showed a couple times later on that he could do a ton of damage to 4+ enemy players, and I figured he would have done his spinning thing and we would have engaged. Maybe not a smart engage, but that was my thinking. I have seen players do a lot worse. The only thing I would have changed about that is ulting the cow, but I actually did that to stun him because I knew that he was coming in to knock me back into the enemy team. I was actually trying to use my ulti like a flash back toward turret and away from the rest of his team and stun him at the same time. I don't know how his headbutt cancels my ulti that is supposed to suppress him.

13.) I thought I had boots already, I usually pick them up on that first back where I got my red smite before it was upgraded to Bloodrazor. I spent the entire time not even realizing I didn't have the base pair of boots. #BronzeLyfe

14.) I went for dragon because Shaco was already on it and I thought I could get there in time to at least 50/50 smite for it. There is no way we would have gotten an inhib in that push.

15.) Yes, I should be warding. I keep forgetting. However, this is the only game I have done since hitting 30 that I have less than 5 wards placed. Not a lot, but this is literally the worst game I've had about spacing it out with wards.

16.) Didn't think about ghost. I fucked up.

17.) MF went up to go get minions, I figured she could go get them just as fast without me since she has good wave clear. I started making my way down to mid and cleared camps on the way. Could Ibhave done better, maybe, but bear in mind we still got wrecked with me and Leona.

18.) I needed 2400 gold to finish spirit visage and boots. I had 800 before killing Shaco, not a great time to go back, I had 1100 after killing Shaco, again not a great time to go back. After almost getting killed and making it into my jungle, I had 2k gold, yes. I needed 400 more or it would have been a wasted back anyway. I cleared the bottom half first and did not have 2400, so I cleared the top half and had enough. I think I actually was fully justified in that.

19.) Again, you say I am sitting in jungle way too much, I was trying to finish off spirit visage and MR boots to keep from dying to all their AP. Finishing those items was very important.

20.) And as MF said, stop pushing for a min! We kept losing people because it would be 2v5 or whatever half the time. We'd lose 2 and 2 more would go down to fight. I agree the issue was with not grouping enough, but I was far from the only one not grouping.

21.) What you said is true, but they also have supers in two lanes so they can't 5v5 at Baron without losing their base.

22.) MF was the only one over 50% kill participation, by one. I was right in line with Garen and Leona. Which considering Warwick doesn't have the same level of kill pressure that other champs may have, it isn't actually that bad and if you look at stats for other junglers in bronze, my kp is higher than a lot of them.

23.) I got carried as much as everyone else on the team. I did a hell of a lot better than the average bronze jungler we get. I'm not a diamond, but to say that I am getting carried in Bronze III is a bit ignorant. It wasn't the cleanest game, but I did my share and saved a lot of fights that would have been lost. Yes, we could have sub-20'd them if we all played a clean game.

Im knawt a smurf1 votes

I'm not going to read any of this unfortunately. I read the first couple and you're giving me your mindset, when it's clearly a wrong mindset. You have a 23% win rate in ranked at the bronze III level.

I'm giving you advice to help you improve. If you're going to argue my advice then don't ask for it.

Also, message me in-game. I don't come to these forums very often.

Grymmstrike1 votes

Thanks for the help. Will try to get answers to my questions from someone else since I am on forums a lot more than on game.

Im knawt a smurf1 votes

Maybe that's why you're not improving.

Grymmstrike1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Im knawt a smurf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LWcimZRF,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-26T14:18:32.691+0000)

No, im not offering boosting.

I'm kind of bored with the game and I find more enjoyment helping players gain knowledge and experience through a sort of "coaching."

If you'd like to discuss certain junglers and what not or even how to play against a jungler, warding spots that help you play against junglers or help your team, or even situational discussion add:

Im knawt a smurf

Everyone else is free to troll me. Also I don't claim to be an amazing player, but I feel I can help the bronze/silver/gold/plat community in where exactly they're going wrong and help them improve as players instead of letting the lower elo community stay in the mindset of "its my team's fault."

Hit me up boiz. Hope to help some people out.

https://youtu.be/YL2vzoU0tEQ

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