Nasus needs a hard nerf

perfecta22·4/12/2019, 1:09:33 PM·17 votes·3,325 views

So I started this season in bronze 2 and climbed all the way to gold 4 but, in all of these divisions whenever I see a nasus, I defeat him in early game denying him stacks, but at 20 min mark he always manages to outscale whatever champ I play (Jax, renekton, garen, e.t.c) and solo win the game by ultying, having 3k hp with lots of armor and more dmg than anyone else in the game. in my opinion he should either have his stacks decreased or have a much higher q mana cost so he can't just spam q on lane, go back and either have the wave pushed up or tp so he doesn't Lose stacks or cs. Also it doesn't matter if I deny him cs, because he is able to have 170 cs at 30 mins of the game and have 600-700 stacks at the same time, so it's just pick/ban Nasus or lose the game and that leaves the most annoying champion to me(gnar) open for anyone to play and dominate..

32 Comments

Kalikain4/12/2019, 1:49:21 PM7 votes

A lot of people really are not experienced with laning against nasus in this forum. They are just saying, "don't let him get fed," "kite him." The truth is, is that nasus can farm no matter what. A golem camp up top can be 50 stacks if the enemy had a pushed wave at their tower. Melee minions are 2 tower shots and 1 Q for stacks, casters are 1 tower shot and 1 Q. So even if people are trying to deny him under tower, he can still farm. Nasus will get stacks no matter what. As for kiting him, you're assuming nasus is running you down 1v5, which he doesnt do. You have 4 other enemies throwing out 100 different forms of CC, not including nasus perma slow. Hell, if he wanted, he could slow vayne, flash Q, Q and vayne is dead. She can't roll far away enough. Or, one of the latest nasus builds is predator. Thanks trick2g for that cancer. Try kiting that hell. This is ontop of them giving nasus a buff to have more stacks. The real only solution is to have a good top laner freeze lane and last hit under their tower, and have the jungler literally perma camp nasus for 25 minutes. This solution only relies on your mid or bot lane getting ahead alone. Coin flip.

Vulkus I4/12/2019, 1:15:36 PM6 votes

It's literally impossible to shut him down at literally every point of the game, there shouldn't be a champ where you're forced to fucking babysit them all game and they just end up scaling anyways.

You'll be downvoted for speaking the truth btw, take my upvote papi.

Afk on Lane4/12/2019, 3:14:58 PM3 votes

Nasus doesn't really need nerf. All that u are telling its truth, that no matter how much u stomp him early, he will come back, with decent stack dmg and overall 1v1 beast. He can't be really beaten by bruiser(maybe except 2-3 champions) 1v1 in the mid game if he is playing correctly. U can just stop his farming and deny to the moment when everything just go in the other direction.

But to the point why he doesn't need a nerf?, he lacks mobility. He is only a moving meatshield in the teamfights. No matter how much stack he got. He can even has 1000 stack on q, but he will be useless in teamfight, he will be good 1v1 vs bruisers and some ad carries, good split pusher but shit in teamfight.

His moment to shine comes in the mid game , not really late game, when he finished trinity, and builds tanky + his ult resistences, in this moment he is a raidboss, because no one even buys penetration in those moments of the game, everyone just goes core builds and thats often the mistake of people who for example playing as an adc goes 3 crit items instead of rushing item 3036 or item 3033 after 2 crit items when seeing raidboss nasus, same with void staff as on mid because nasus with R around 11 lvl has 150 armor/mr + and around 2.5k hp. He falls of late( YES HE FALLS OFF LATE GAME) hard to belevie lmao, when the amount of dmg cc, in teamfight are just insane, nasus dies in a 3 sec on a teamfight, he won't even catch anybody while being bursted by enemy fire. Everyone has builded penetration in this moment of the game. The only thing he scales late game is his Tower pushing, and if u really won't go in on him 1v1 then u won't die. At this point of the game there are several champions who are almost equal to his late game 1v1 and can hold im off while the rest is just nuking him.

The funny fact is that every bruiser u mentioned is way better to just kill enemy backlane than nasus, and that should be their job, not fighring with nasus. Let the mage and adc deal with him, they just have amount of dmg to fuck him up.

If your team is braindead, cus its gold i get it . Look at the mid and your bot champions. if u have Anivia Velkoz Cassiopeia Malzahar on mid then nasus will have really hard life regardless of their feed. Other mages are good too but they need a bit of items and time to fuck him up while these just melt nasus, and have enough cc to just stop him and make his life a nightmare, same with adcs.

On bot Vayne Kaisa KogMaw Varus Ashe

On top: I think that good Riven can even 1v1 him in late, due to her sustain conqueror etc, in previous seasons i think it would be impossible but now, its bullshit, if any diamond+ riven otp is here, pls tell me if im wrong.

Champions that can outscale him in teamfight : Riven Gangplank Vladimir Kennen Renekton Jax JarvanIV {{champion:420} Aatrox Urgot Aatrox Camille } ,just almost anybody, also almost all of these champions shits on him in early game. This post is just too long so I end it.

Warpes4/12/2019, 7:05:06 PM2 votes

no.

it sounds like you're another one who thinks the problem is nasus, and not yourself.. being unable to punish him enough early, and then stop trying to 1v1 him when hes clearly past the point of being able to kill you.. repeatedly. and then not knowing how to close games out and using your advantage.

i can say this with confidence because the champs you play are duel champs, and people who play those are 'often' kda players, and given everything else you've said i dont even need to look at your op.gg to see that your problem is you, and not nasus.

170 cs at 30 mins is actually bronze.

Padoµch4/12/2019, 2:36:25 PM2 votes

He is a low elo stomper. Thats it, if you pick him in higher elo, and the jungler isnt braindead he will get stomped and the game will end before he can stack up. Also if the jungler lets top laner takes those kills nasus wont be able to 1v1 him and he will get starved even more.

letsfeedtogether4/12/2019, 1:12:42 PM2 votes

Nasus is actually so weak right now. Just need to nerf his cuz its just so anti fun

Daddy Ants4/12/2019, 6:47:08 PM2 votes

170 cs at 30 mins?

You realize that's dog shit terrible cs?