Some love taps for Ahri to help her this pre-Season

Colton147··4 votes·933 views

As the title says...

Ahri is currently sitting at a 50-53%: http://na.op.gg/champion/ahri/statistics/mid http://champion.gg/champion/Ahri/Middle?league= http://www.lolking.net/champions/ahri#/overview

Love taps:

Passive: Essence Theft

Now restores 2%-10% (per level) of Ahri's maximum mana

W: Fox Fire

Damage increased from 40/65/90/115/140 to 65/90/115/140/180

E: Charm

Charm duration increased from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 to 1.25/1.5/1.75/2/2.25 seconds

33 Comments

Shadòw6 votes

Ahri is currently sitting at a 50-53%

How is that an argument that speaks for buffs?

rework trundle2 votes

This. Here's a 2 minutes chart that explains why Ahri doesn't need buffs

54%+ = broken 51%-53% = meta 48%-50% = playable 47%- = bad

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=le un le seul,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=L7PHFUz4,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-12-28T22:41:03.666+0000)

This. Here's a 2 minutes chart that explains why Ahri doesn't need buffs

54%+ = broken 51%-53% = meta 48%-50% = playable 47%- = bad

^ and yet when i ask for buffs to my champ when she had a 38% winrate (exactly 1 year ago) i got downvoted...

i especially like that you gave ranges, but i would also add "allowable winrate difference between elos"

because i frankly see shit like"

"your champion has a 50% winrate.. but they are high pick ban so they needs nerfs", but when if you go just two division down that winrate drops to 46%.

at one point the winrate differential on my main was 8%. that is also a sign that riot royally screwed the fuck up..

rework trundle1 votes

The last time my main was meta was 6.24 (Trundle). Yours has been meta for the last 4 years.

and yet when i ask for buffs to my champ when she had a 38% winrate (exactly 1 year ago) i got downvoted...

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/ahri ? Her lowest this season was slightly lower than 51%.

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=le un le seul,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=L7PHFUz4,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-29T02:40:26.688+0000)

The last time my main was meta was 6.24 (Trundle). Yours has been meta for the last 4 years.

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/ahri ? Her lowest this season was slightly lower than 51%.

i dont main ahri... i main Nidalee [slayer-jinx-unamused]

and my god i was saying your post was good and was very accurate... seesh...[zombie-brand-facepalm]

AirKingNeo1 votes

low as fuck playrate.

Shadòw2 votes

7,3% is not low af.

she doesn't have to be META every season.

AirKingNeo1 votes

hasn't been meta since season 4.

Shadòw2 votes

she literally was just a few months ago

AirKingNeo2 votes

When? Being picked in proplay 4 times in NA ONLY?

Shadòw2 votes

you know that a champ doesn't have to be pick or ban in proplay to be META.

and she even had a good LCS pickrate last summer.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Then she isn't meta? Not even picked in diamond+ either. How is a champion meta without fitting the description?

Shadòw3 votes

She literally was picked last summer in LCS with a pickrate from 20-70%.

Many champions never had seen above 10% pickrate in LCS, so if all you Ahri mains could stop crying the moment your champion isn't sitting above 54% wr, that would be great.

Apart from the fact that she still has more than 5% pickrate in Diamond+, which is still decent.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Many champions never had seen above 10% pickrate in LCS, so if all you Ahri mains could stop crying the moment your champion isn't sitting above 54% wr, that would be great.

Most LCS champions have a pickrate of 50-80% in LCS.

Kivolan5 votes

You're kidding, right?

God forbid everyone's favorite weeaboo champ not be top 1 - 3 in mid lane. I'm personally enjoying not seeing her in every single game.

TengenToppaGnar1 votes

lol, but what's worse? Weeaboo champ, or Chris Hansen's favorite bait champ?

Crystalysk4 votes

Buff her W so she can oneshot any squiscy without hitting a single skillshot? No thanks. It was nerfed because even a bad player could just press WRRR and oneshot enemies.

Colton1471 votes

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Buff her W so she can oneshot any squiscy without hitting a single skillshot? No thanks. It was nerfed because even a bad player could just press WRRR and oneshot enemies.

When I played Ahri (I forgot when it was; I believe yesterday); her W feels underwhelming this pre-Season.

Crystalysk1 votes

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When I played Ahri (I forgot when it was; I believe yesterday); her W feels underwhelming this pre-Season.

You can still oneshot champions if you play her properly and hit your abilities which makes her ok, not extremely good but fine. People at least cannot abuse the fact they only had to smash their fingers on the keyboard without aiming at enemies. She actually requires skill now.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

You said the exact same thing for the last 140 champions.

WalkingInACircle2 votes

Pure bullshit.

Crystalysk1 votes

{quoted}

Pure bullshit.

Yeah, totally. You just can't admit the truth, right? Ahri main, right?

Śhunpo3 votes

50-53%

That means she's finally balanced and no longer needs any more buffs.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

If you feel that Ahri has problems, point out what those problems are. Winrate is a poor reason for any change by itself. You have to provide analysis and valid reasons for changes to be made if you want to be taken seriously.

Krij33n2 votes

Heres a breakdown for why ahri needs just a slight buff, i am not asking for game breaking buffs, just a little damage increase on her E would be fine, but now heres why she is currently weak, In the previous rune system, she could be run with scaling health, magic pen and a few AP runes and scale well from early to mid or at times late game as well, now when she doesnt have those stats to help her in lane she is getting rekt by any other champion who can use the runes more better than her, she is so underwhelming to play as against a few champions that it feels as though she has become a neutral creep rather than a champion , Riot can atleast buff her stats if not the magic damage on her spells, she doesnt have good enough stats to lane properly as to when she was able to properly lane against nearly any mid champion, but their were some champions who could indeed rekt her even then, she was balanced in the old rune systems, in this new runes reforged she lost a lot of her stats, like the ADC's lost, she is a squishy mage assassin and losing out on her stats hit her alot more than it should have, thats all. So, if she gets a slight buff to her stats that would be great as well, i can get 1k AP on ahri with the items i make on her but still her early game isnt so good as it once was, So just buffing her stats would also be great. Thank you for reading

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Alright thanks for that, I see where you are coming from about it.

I could see her getting more viability if her early game sucked less... but I'm not sure Riot will want to do that. Her biggest weakness is supposed to be her early game, where she cannot use her ultimate to escape ganks. And I'm not sure Riot will want to raise her base effectiveness rather than make her strengths stronger.

Krij33n1 votes

Thank You for understanding :D [sg-miss-fortune]

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

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Krij33n1 votes

Mate dont try to ask for buffs on Ahri, Riot just doesnt care and the community will downvote any buffs asked on her to oblivion, because people think she is "META" all the time while they wont look at other champions who are so broken and wont even ask for any nerfs on them, because these people will basically be maining those champions, well +1 from me, because i do feel she is weak in the current "META" as she lost shit tonne of her stat from the new runes reforged. Hope Riot will open their god damn eyes and look to buff her and some other champions who were sent to oblivion by this new screwed up runes reforged system [sg-ahri-1]

Ifneth1 votes

{quoted}

As the title says...

Ahri is currently sitting at a 50-53%: http://na.op.gg/champion/ahri/statistics/mid http://champion.gg/champion/Ahri/Middle?league= http://www.lolking.net/champions/ahri#/overview

Love taps:

Passive: Essence Theft

Now restores 2%-10% (per level) of Ahri's maximum mana

W: Fox Fire

Damage increased from 40/65/90/115/140 to 65/90/115/140/180

E: Charm

Charm duration increased from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 to 1.25/1.5/1.75/2/2.25 seconds

She has a pretty good win-rate right now. Generally, buffing a champion with a win-rate over 50% is a bad idea, since any buff will increase their winrate, leaving them same-ish at best and meta or broken at worst.

TengenToppaGnar1 votes

.... 50-53% win rate is balanced, especially with her popularity. She's still the 15th most picked champion for the mid role, OUT OF A VIABLE 46.

No love taps, no nothing. You don't buff balanced champions. The moment you said her winrate is above 50% should give you the answer >_>

Nayeons Smile1 votes

This thread comments makes me mad. Do people not understand that winrates does not mean anything? Lux has a 53% winrate and 5% playrate but do people think Lux is OP, no because you can outplay her hard. The only reason Ahri has a post 50% winrate is because she is a very safe and unforgiving champion and that makes her "noob" friendly to not feed on. People that say Ahri is OP are dogshit at this game and have no idea to play a lanephase, its most of the time the same people that thinks Yasuo and Zed is broken af.

Ahri is Fakers favorite champion, but he NEVER plays her in solo Q despite her having a 52% winrate, because he can play Malz and do the same job but better and more reliable. The nerf and the rune changes just fucked her laning phase totally. She can't proc TLD with Q + Auto anymore, so she has no power in lane pre-6. Post 6 she has to hit EVERYTHING perfectly to actually be able to kill someone and Ignite. If they have cleanse you are not gonna kill them. If the enemy buys any MR or merc treads you are not gonna kill them with a perfect combo unless you are INSANELY ahead. Meanwhile Katarina can 2 shot someone at level 6 if played properly. Even level 3 that happens.

Despite having a bad early game and shit late game, she has some of the wort AP ratios and base damage in the game. If you look at a similar champ kit-wise like Leblanc, she has BETTER early game, better ap ratios, better base damages, 2 dashes on a low cd, BETTER late game, Maybe the same mid game if not better. She has low mana costs which means she can start corrupting potion for sustain and she can go TP because she does not need ignite for kill pressure. If you land a chain on your enemy at level 3, you are probably gonna blow one of their summoners. If you do the same thing on Ahri you are gonna tickle the enemy AND be out of mana for the rest of the lane until you back.

In summarize Ahri has a high winrate because of her mobility only, not because she is a strong champion. She is a discount Leblanc that gets outclassed by almost any mid in the game and you have to 1 trick her or play her ABSOLUTELY perfect if you wanna carry on her. If you miss 1 spell you are not gonna get a kill. Play any other champion and the same thing won't happen ever.

Kumiho Ahri1 votes

I only want a reliable Keystone for poke Champs like her. comet and that Keystone with the pet(forgot the name) are really bad. Also derceasing the amount of snow ball mechanics would also help a lot.

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