After struggling against Riven, I bought her and played her....

Xx420n0sc0p3sxX·Oct 5, 2015·3 votes·760 views

....and she seems too strong. I don't wanna circlejerk or whatever but after around 10 games I got the hang of her and she seemed too powerful. I could almost insta melt teams, and if I got caught out it was usually ok. In lane it seemed there was little my lane opponent could do, as I used my high damage coupled with cc and mobility to have very favorable trades. The only real weakness I saw in her was that her cooldowns are kinda high early (Then again, I just had 5% from masteries). You could say just cc her, but that works on anyone who isn't a super tank or irelia/olaf

thoughts?

16 Comments

AxestsOct 5, 20153 votes

meanwhile in higher elos, riven players are getting shit on by juggernauts and tanks that give 0 fucks about her "burst"

EedatOct 5, 20151 votes

Joke? Riven is one of the few that outduels Darius. Riven vs Fiora and Garen is a skill match up

AxestsOct 5, 20151 votes

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Joke? Riven is one of the few that outduels Darius. Riven vs Fiora and Garen is a skill match up

not really, i've seen riven in one game in the past month, and she got destroyed by darius. Darius can pull riven out of her 3rd q, has the damage to keep up with her, is tankier, and has sustain which she severely lacks.

EedatOct 5, 20151 votes

I don't think one game is enough to make a generalization. Riven counters Darius due to the fact that Darius' slows have no effect on Riven's mobility. Riven can force trades then get out before Darius can really do anything

AxestsOct 5, 20152 votes

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I don't think one game is enough to make a generalization. Riven counters Darius due to the fact that Darius' slows have no effect on Riven's mobility. Riven can force trades then get out before Darius can really do anything

how so? riven has to use her shield dash to chain her stun (if you use q to gap close the stun has a delay) and without that is only left with her q to get out. Darius' pull is enough to cancel the distance of one of her q's and then he has enough time to hit her with his w as well. The slows plus the bonus movespeed he get are more than enough to stay on her even with her 2 remaining q's. Not to mention that again, darius has SUSTAIN which is riven's biggest lane counter seeing as she has the worst passive health regen in the game.

EedatOct 5, 20151 votes

Darius gets no sustain vs Riven. Riven has 4 dashs to get out of the blade radius of Darius' Q. Again, Darius' slows have almost not effect on Riven. I don't understand why you think Riven needs to use her shield dash to chain her stun. Both are melee so theyre going to get close to cs. Riven just needs the first Q to get onto him. Q > auto > W > Q > auto > Knock up Q > auto > start walking away then E before he can Apprehend you. Waiting to use the shield till the end also deals with some of his bleed. Repeat this twice then all in him.

It's not a free lane just by picking Riven, but if its a skillled Riven vs a skilled Darius then Riven wins every time

Meep ManOct 5, 20151 votes

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meanwhile in higher elos, riven players are getting shit on by juggernauts and tanks that give 0 fucks about her "burst"

TahmKench "Your blade is duller than an uncooked sack of potatoes."

colesyOct 5, 20152 votes

i find it hard to believe you got the hang of riven in 10 games considering the average player needs like ~100 games to break 50% win rate in ranked on her.

either that or you're just playing against shitters who don't play accordingly against her.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXOct 5, 20151 votes

By "get the hang of" I mean, I learned how to use her abilities to some use, and few animation cancels. Also I have a normals mmr of that of golds/silvers and sometimes plat.

So probably numero dos

MisterHealYoGirlOct 5, 20152 votes

There are two kinds of counters to Riven: playstyle counters and gameplay counters. I'll give a few

Nasus : Nasus' 'play still and farm forever' really hurts Riven, who relies on early kills to get ahead. His W forces her to use her Q just to get to him, wasting part of her damage, and makes her escapes harder. His passive also gives him good sustain, which is one of Riven's biggest weaknesses.

Garen : Well, let's be real, Garen counters most people. But anyway, his passive lets him MASSIVELY outsustain her, his Q silence really screws up her combo, and his E lets him do his full damage even under her CC.

Lulu : Lulu's poke and AA harass is super obnoxious, even more so for a sustain-less champion. Her shield helps her survive Riven's all-in, her Glitterlance baits out Qs like Nasus's Wither, and her W can be used to both shut down Riven's combo or vroom vroom her right out of there.

Chogath : Cho'gath's passive gives him fantastic sustain, and his W-Q combo means that Riven can't really engage on him. His build also accommodates early armor, which is a great counter to Riven. Play careful early, obviously (you're against RIVEN, for god's sake), but Cho can turn this into a farm lane, which Riven HATES.

Anyway, I hope this helped.

EedatOct 5, 20151 votes

if you think Nasus counters Riven, you are in for a world of pain. Cho and Garen don't hard counter Riven either

MisterHealYoGirlOct 5, 20151 votes

Sorry, my mistake, I was very tired and just thinking in general terms of high sustain scaling toplaners. xP Cho'Gath, however, does alright into Riven, as do Garen and Lulu. Kennen, Pantheon, and Renekton can also really sting.

FANTAsticOrangeOct 5, 20151 votes

I am 99.9% sure that after 10 games you did not realize your inner Riven and deem her OP or too strong.

YOU HAVE YET TO REALIZE HER TRUE POWER !

RavenhaleOct 5, 20151 votes

Riven was my first top lane champ. She's not really the champ to pick to learn how to survive in the top lane. It doesn't take much to figure out how to escape and Riven's kit is very forgiving if you don't have the best positioning. Being aggressive and winning lane is a different matter. You pretty much have to be decent in top lane to begin with (CS, minion aggro, knowledge of enemy kits).

Personally, I've put my Riven on the back-burner until I have a bit more basic knowledge in the top lane. Irelia is much easier to manage and I can at least "break even" and still be useful after the laning phase. With Riven it was pretty much win lane or be useless.