Lux and Garen Balances

Binford·Feb 22, 2016·3 votes·1,260 views

I think some Lux and Garen nerfs are needed now. I'm tired of going against a Lux who can 100-0 you despite of building some Magic Resist Items and I'm tired of going against Garen because of his ridiculous health regen and the ability to build tank and damage and still dishing out ridiculous damage while still being able to tank and not having much counter play towards his itemization or kit. I hate when Riot can turn their nose around and give unneeded buffs to fan favorite champions like Teemo but wants to do something stupid like nerf Ahri's charm. But I say this because I don't really blame the champion and their kit's they're given but I honestly just blame the balance team for this because at times they don't take everyone's opinion in mind and they do whatever they feel like from buffing Teemo and nerfing Ahri (just using this a prime example because I think these two champions are relevant in recent balances )

39 Comments

Moulin RougeFeb 22, 20162 votes

Ahri has been the poster child for LoL mages for years.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 22, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moulin Rouge,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-22T23:58:32.388+0000)

Ahri has been the poster child for LoL mages for years.

Then Lux=Ahri v2.0

Absurdity.

People don't like op champions.

BeldairFeb 23, 20162 votes

I have no issues with Lux and Garen....but i play them occassionally too so i know their weaknesses and how to counter them.

Garen can be easily kited and Lux has damage but lacks mobility.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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I have no issues with Lux and Garen....but i play them occassionally too so i know their weaknesses and how to counter them.

Garen can be easily kited and Lux has damage but lacks mobility.

Muh! Mobility. Classic protect op champions.

Malz, Swa, Karth haven't mobility but Riot gave nerfs to this champions.But Lux? Untouchable?

BeldairFeb 23, 20161 votes

I'm not defending Lux. Just stating that I actually have no issues with any champs.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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I'm not defending Lux. Just stating that I actually have no issues with any champs.

But this people have a lot issues about Lux.(including me)

We(or you) must have respect for.

BeldairFeb 23, 20161 votes

I just don't think any champ is OP. I just believe that some don't know how to counter the champion. For instance, i do have issues against Ill, Xin, and some Yis but that isn't because i find them op, i just haven't worked on how to counter them.

And i'm not gonna downvote and completely disagree, i am simply stating my opinion in the matter. Does she need nerfs, i personally don't think so.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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I just don't think any champ is OP. I just believe that some don't know how to counter the champion. For instance, i do have issues against Ill, Xin, and some Yis but that isn't because i find them op, i just haven't worked on how to counter them.

And i'm not gonna downvote and completely disagree, i am simply stating my opinion in the matter. Does she need nerfs, i personally don't think so.

I think last buff must reverted.Do you think?

BeldairFeb 23, 20161 votes

Like i said earlier, i just don't think Lux or Garen are OP.

LuggFeb 23, 20162 votes

The only thing Garen needs is a nerf to his passive and he would be balanced. Right now he regens WAY too fast, which he doesn't really need considering how tanky he gets anyway.

Lux needs a longer CD on her ult for sure and then you can judge what else needs adjusting after that.

MizayaFeb 23, 20162 votes

FYI, Lux's ultimate used to go down to 24 seconds CD with 40% CDR. That's a more meaningful nerf than the buffs she's gotten.

Lux is a team reliant champion, which typically doesn't fare well in solo queue. Yeah, she's strong, but there's a reason most challenger mids don't play her.

BinfordFeb 23, 20161 votes

True but that's Challenger players which makes up like .00001 percent of the solo q ladder in all regions and I don't think it matters much if she's team reliant if her damage sky rockets when you're itemizing her

BinfordFeb 23, 20161 votes

I mean I get that challenger players are the absolute best players in soloq and high elo players in general but there's more than Challenger/Diamond/Plats in the region that has opinions about the game and how it shapes up from concepts, balances, what's op and not op, etc.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 22, 20161 votes

Yes.Especially Lux.

BinfordFeb 22, 20162 votes

Yeah and I forgot to mention item balances but mainly rageblade because that item is just stupid op in general

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20162 votes

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Yeah and I forgot to mention item balances but mainly rageblade because that item is just stupid op in general

Rageblade was nerfed 3 times.Still problem?

BinfordFeb 23, 20162 votes

It's still a problem if champs like Jax Xin Kog can abuse this along with building devourer lol

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20162 votes

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It's still a problem if champs like Jax Xin Kog can abuse this along with building devourer lol

Jax isn't problem but Xin and Kog are problem.I agree.

Jax is fine but other 2 champion are broken.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

Lux is op and Lux mains can't deny this.Very simple.This is undeniable.

You don't fatigue yourself.

MizayaFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-02-23T00:22:51.006+0000)

Lux is op and Lux mains can't deny this.Very simple.This is undeniable.

You don't fatigue yourself.

You lose some credibility when you compare Lux, an immobile mage, to Ahri, one of the most mobile mages/assassins.

CalabokFeb 23, 20161 votes

Op is probably a zed player

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

I compare Lux?

When?

But true.Both are op.You're right.

Ahri was op for a long time.Next Lux.

Classic Riot things.

New WAIFU!!!

MizayaFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-02-23T00:47:20.332+0000)

I compare Lux?

When?

"Lux = Ahri v2.0"

This is not accurate in gameplay, as you're comparing one of the most mobile mages to an immobile mage, or relative strength in the last few seasons. Ahri has seen so much more play it's incredible.

Also, I stopped playing Lux a while ago. I'm 3 divisions higher than when I stopped playing her and I'm quite satisfied with that.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=GG Yoona lm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-02-23T00:50:14.442+0000)

"Lux = Ahri v2.0"

This is not accurate in gameplay, as you're comparing one of the most mobile mages to an immobile mage, or relative strength in the last few seasons. Ahri has seen so much more play it's incredible.

Also, I stopped playing Lux a while ago. I'm 3 divisions higher than when I stopped playing her and I'm quite satisfied with that.

I compare about be op or broken.

Ahri didn't have 25% or 25%+ play rate.She had 15% play rate.

MizayaFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T00:51:32.487+0000)

I compare about be op or broken.

Ahri didn't have 25% or 25%+ play rate.She had 15% play rate.

I mean eventually people should learn to play better against her. At high elo she's less picked because she's less of a punishing champion than other picks, like Ahri. I would welcome any changes that makes her more risky to play but more rewarding.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=GG Yoona lm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T00:56:59.629+0000)

I mean eventually people should learn to play better against her. At high elo she's less picked because she's less of a punishing champion than other picks, like Ahri. I would welcome any changes that makes her more risky to play but more rewarding.

You look here.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/lux?region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond#statistics

18% play rate for Diamond and 11% play rate for Master+

No such thing with elo.

Lux is op and people noticed this.They are playing with Lux now.

BinfordFeb 23, 20161 votes

I think Ahri is pretty balanced though, she do get pretty strong if fed ofc, but I think she's generally balanced until they announced the Ahri nerf for her charm

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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I think Ahri is pretty balanced though, she do get pretty strong if fed ofc, but I think she's generally balanced until they announced the Ahri nerf for her charm

After this nerfs Ahri will be fine but she was op for a long time.

New WAIFU CHAMPION LUX. I'm sure.

BinfordFeb 23, 20161 votes

But I don't see anything op about her lol and her charm in my opinion was pretty balanced in terms of what it actually supposed to do

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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But I don't see anything op about her lol and her charm in my opinion was pretty balanced in terms of what it actually supposed to do

But her q movement speed is absurdity.She is safe as Lux.

Post 6 Ahri is unkilleable.But I agree.Charm was fine.

BinfordFeb 23, 20161 votes

I think the movement speed is pretty balanced and post 6 she can get locked down if the other team was a hard cc champion or comp

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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I think the movement speed is pretty balanced and post 6 she can get locked down if the other team was a hard cc champion or comp

She didn't have q movement speed before dfg.

Riot gave ms her because Ahri was waifu champion.

But they got bored from this situation.

But they was nerfed to wrong way.

BinfordFeb 23, 20161 votes

But I believe it's better than adding more true dmg to her q

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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But I believe it's better than adding more true dmg to her q

Counterplay?

It would be difficult for other mages or control mages.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

Lux mains downvote you.I'm not surprised.

Stay salty Lux(op champion) mains.

SexySoapTurtleFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-02-23T00:49:53.298+0000)

Lux mains downvote you.I'm not surprised.

Stay salty Lux(op champion) mains.

But it seems like you're the salty one here though.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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But it seems like you're the salty one here though.

Or you classic Lux main and salty.

SexySoapTurtleFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KzwhW6qT,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T02:40:34.393+0000)

Or you classic Lux main and salty.

Whatever you say man. I'm not going to argue with a child. You can look at my match history and clearly see i don't main lux if you can read.